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The Hunger Games

Discussion in 'Codex Public Library' started by Crispy, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. Sub Arbiter

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    Okay, should I read it first so I can diss the movie better or should I skip reading it and still diss the movie?

    I'm being encouraged to watch the movie because one of the characters is cute.
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    Don't think you should bother reading the book unless the movie interests you. From what I hear the movie is somewhat faithful to the book. A bit more censored, but the basic stuff is in there.
  3. Luzur Good Sir

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    ok, so can someone tell me the plot of this movie?
  4. TripJack Hedonist Patron

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    The Hunger Games takes place after the destruction of North America by some unknown apocalyptic event, in a nation known as Panem. Panem consists of a wealthy Capitol and twelve surrounding, poorer districts. District 12, where the book begins, is located in the coal-rich region that was formerly Appalachia.

    As punishment for a previous rebellion against the Capitol in which a 13th district was destroyed, one boy and one girl between the ages of 12 and 18 from each district are selected by annual lottery to participate in the Hunger Games, an event in which the participants (or "tributes") must fight in an outdoor arena controlled by the Capitol, until only one remains. The story follows 16-year-old Katniss Everdeen, a girl from District 12 who volunteers for the 74th annual Hunger Games in place of her younger sister, Primrose. Also selected from District 12 is Peeta Mellark, a baker's son whom Katniss knows from school, who once gave her bread when her family was starving.

    Katniss and Peeta are taken to the Capitol where their drunken mentor, Haymitch Abernathy, victor of the 50th Hunger Games, instructs them to watch and learn the talents of the other tributes. They are then publicly displayed to the Capitol audience in a televised session with interviewer Caesar Flickerman. During this time, Peeta reveals on-air his long-time unrequited love for Katniss. Katniss believes this to be a ploy to gain audience support for the Games, which can be crucial for survival, as audience members are encouraged to send gifts like food, medicine, and tools to favored tributes during the Games. The Games begin with 11 of the 24 tributes dying in the first day, while Katniss relies on her well-practiced hunting and outdoor skills to survive. As the games continue, the tribute death toll increases. A few days later, Katniss develops an alliance with Rue, a 12-year-old girl from the agricultural District 11 who reminds Katniss of her sister Prim. The alliance is short-lived: Rue is killed by another tribute. At Rue's request Katniss sings to her, then spreads flowers over her body as a sign of respect—and of disgust towards the Capitol.

    Supposedly due to Katniss and Peeta's beloved image in the minds of the audience as "star-crossed lovers", a rule change is announced midway through the Games, stating that two tributes from the same district can win the Hunger Games as a pair. Upon hearing this, Katniss searches for Peeta and eventually finds him wounded. As she nurses him back to health, she acts the part of a young girl falling in love to gain more favor with the audience and, consequently, gifts from her sponsors. When the couple are finally the last two tributes, the Gamemakers reverse the rule change in an attempt to force them into a dramatic finale, where one must kill the other to win. Katniss, knowing that the Gamemakers would rather have two victors than none, retrieves highly poisonous berries known as "nightlock" from her pouch and offers some to Peeta. Upon realizing that Katniss and Peeta intend to commit suicide, the Gamemakers announce that both will be the victors of the 74th Hunger Games.

    Although she survives the ordeal in the arena and is treated to a hero's welcome in the Capitol, Katniss is warned by Haymitch that she has now become a political target after defying her society's authoritarian leaders so publicly. Afterwards, Peeta is heartbroken when he learns that Katniss's actions in the arena were part of a calculated ploy to earn sympathy from the audience. However, Katniss is unsure of her own feelings, and realizes that she is dreading the moment when she and Peeta will go their separate ways.

    there you go herp
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    Agatha Christie?
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    book was B S B, movie will be worse
  7. Luzur Good Sir

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    ok, thanks, now i dont have to watch the movie.

    derp
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  9. Sub Arbiter

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    Picking up the book tomorrow and got a couple of movie tickets. Just need to figure out who to go with.
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    The movie was alright, better than BR IMO. The BR movie had shit acting and a shit plot; the Battle Royale book just works better and was primarily a critique of the Japanese educational system -- the movie hardly brings that across. I never read the Hunger Games books, but it does work better as a critique of the media and government. Still claiming she never heard of Battle Royale before writing her books seems like a blatant lie.

    Ursula Le Guin is a good female sci-fi writer, although she said she consciously tried to write as a man in her earlier works.
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    Went and saw the movie with a couple of people out of curiosity. It just....wasn't very good despite the praise that gets heaped on it. Its like a movie that wishes to maintain the pretension of extreme cynicism and edginess but never really commits to its premise about a brutal game where children murder each other. Any violence that takes place is muted or rendered unwatchable by the insanely shaky camera that shows "glimpses" of bad stuff going down, but it comes off as just....cheap. I haven't read the books but the looming PG-13 rating probably did damage to what they could potentially put on screen.

    As a result the whole center of the movie, the "games", is just incredibly boring to watch. There is zero tension as the main character meanders through the forest, and hardly anyone else in the game seems cunning or imposing. The movie also spends like 20 minutes on super dramatic death scene over some kid we barely give a crap about, and there are some awfully cheesy "romance" scenes as well(DO THEY CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER, OR IS IT ALL A GAME? HURRR).

    4/10. Watchable if you're really bored.
  12. Johannes Liturgist

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    So what is this movie even about? All I know so far is that it's bad

    Edit:ok nevermind, didn't notice 2nd page here and it's already explained
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    Typical Kwan emo faggotery than, moving on. :smug:
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    Man, you don't argue with these types, they don't listen to fucking reason, all they're going to do is go through a series of elaborate logical leaps to completely discredit every example you provide them. You should understand KKKodex by now.

    I read the first Hunger Games several years ago and hated its prose and all of its characters, never bothered finishing it. One of my friends is really into it, at this point I basically tell her "neat, I don't know anything about the rest of the series, nor do I particularly care to." "Battle Royale with cheese" is basically spot on, made me lol. Anyway: Don't bother with the series, just more dumbass teen fiction, which is rapidly becoming my least favorite genre as a result of the aforementioned friend :P.
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  15. TripJack Hedonist Patron

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    ^^woman author apologist detected

    agatha christie lol good one

    next youll be telling me that the harry potter lady is good
  16. Phelot RPG Codex Staff

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    Yep, that's a female for ya. "I love him, but I don't LOL"
  17. Vaarna_Aarne Ask me about anime Patron

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    I think you mean that she's being intentionally ambiguous.
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    Read Metropolitan and City On Fire, they have a great female protagonist.

    Of course they're written by a man. (Walter Jon Williams) :smug:

    And yeah, good female characters are mostly written by men. :madame bovary:
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    I'm LRing the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen right now, and it too has a good, strong female protagonist (extra points for the fact that despite having a strong character, she is by no means a fighter).
  20. alkeides Cipher Patron

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    Peeta + Katniss = Peeniss
  21. villain of the story Magister

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    You suck and fail at culture. Suspension of disbelief is a meaningless shitterm. Battle Royale is vicious, ridiculous, absurd, violent and hilarious. That's what it was made to provide. Not to cater to some whiny faggot's suspension of nigger cocks in his mom's anus and vagina.
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  22. villain of the story Magister

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    Which one?
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    It was okay, but totally outshone by 21 Jump Street, which I watched the night previous.
  24. TheCatsofSanktPetersburg Learned

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    The first novel ever was written by a woman from Japan. :p

    Now, from what I've seen, women as storytellers in general aren't very good with long narratives and complicated storylines that you'd find novels, epics or even theater. But, I'd definitely vouch for them when it comes to poetry. Anna Akhmatova, Emily Dickinson, Edith Sitwell.

    It's a bad idea to generalize, but I tend to think that women's strength in storytelling lies in short works that require lots of care and a sense of decoration, while us guys tend to focus more on the message rather then the aesthetics. (i.e. rap lyrics)

    Also, as an exception my own rule. Higuchi Ichiyo was a good novelist. Tripjack, you ought to get a hold of her book Takekurabe ("Child's Play"). It pretty much defined the modern novel with fads that go still go on today. But don't take my hype, you're better off going into it with skepticism to avoid disappointment.


    Edit: and of course there's Lesifoere, who - one of these days - is gonna show the world her shining light of creative brilliance. One of these days, right girl?

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