Tacticular Cancer: We'll have your balls

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TBS The Fall From Heaven Thread [Civ 4 mod] - 2016 Edition™

Discussion in 'Strategy Gaming' started by Eyestabber, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. Make America Great Again Eyestabbergender: ⚧ Arcane Patron

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    She is also one of the most effective leaders in the AI's hands. Holy fucking Nyxkin with 484156685164165 moves inside your territory... :D

    And I was wondering if it was the same guy. Good to know you're also a fellow Civ4 enthusiast. Share with us your thoughts on how "things got crazy" with MoM. No modders here to eat your head...

    The AI on MoM is still utter crap in Xtended 4.0. Don't know much about earlier versions. I'm hoping copx. will answer that. The AI on EMM (which is pretty much "vanilla FfH") OTOH actually learned to play the game, for the most part.

    Yeah, I'm getting there as I write. If you don't give a shit about the balancing and polish from EitB then just skip EMM and install More Naval AI. I do, however, enjoy the balance and polish changes. Pyre zombies, LOL, I say. :lol:
     
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    It's a great mod. One that I wish they can somehow replicate in Civ V
     
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    This one actually sounds more up my alley. But does it also suffer from the same issues :

    or is it more polished?
     
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    Dug up from archives of somewhere, probably Reddit, how accurate is this summary when it comes to FfH2 mods-mods-mods? Or just roll vanilla mod?

     
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    Ok, so, I have to say, I am a bit (surprise surprise!) autistic about such issues.
    If the thing is unpolished - or more specifically, poorly integrated with the "official" product - I will end up uninstalling the mod, despite myself even. The mismatch of things would hurt my sensibilities.

    So I take it my only option is FFH, if, as I gather, it is the only truly "polished" one - or isn't it?
    And what else does the mod do? More info are appreciated from the esteemed colleagues willing to share :)
     
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    Follow Eyestabber advice and install fall from heaven (+ patch "o" and mediapack) and the "Extra Modmod". Tight and polished, almost like a retail release but with added functionality over the base FFH.
    Eg check the various options in the BUG menu, there's a button in the upper left corner.
     
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    I was just thinking about FFH2 and how much changed since I last played it a few years ago. Seems like a good time to reinstall with your advice Eyestabber! Great work bro, and please don't abandon it until you finish all the relevant FFH mods analysis at least. It's an awesome mod and it deserves attention.
     
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    Been a while, good to hear that FfH hasn't been abandoned. I've mostly been having fun with Caveman to Cosmos but I guess I'll have to give this a new spin thanks to EMM.
     
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    Played a bit of this yesterday. FfH + Patch + Extramodmod. Looked pretty good, but I didn't get to try much of the magic tech. How is it balanced, and can the AI actually use it in a smart way?

    Sent from my MI 3W using Tapatalk
     
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    Define "smart". Smart as in moving a doomstack to a hill/forest FIRST and casting haste LATER? No. Not ignoring magic except for a spell or two and actually using every single available mana type in its most basic use? Yes.

    Brofisted for Tapatalk. Hu3.
     
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    Oh, Ashes of Erebus has somehow slipped past my radar, will check it out.
     
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    No risk of abandonment for now, bros.

    Post #2 is up and post #1 got some new and higher quality screenshots.

    Ty for the honest feedback Tigranes.
     
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    WHAAAAAT? i thought it died some years ago.
    HOW? WHERE? WHEN? I NEED NOW!
     
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    Go on dude . I've never been interested in Civilization series , but you've managed grab my attention .
     
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    http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=548898

    Don't get your hopes up, tho. The AI is completely fucked up. As in I had a game where AI Hippus never founded its first city...

    I added a new screenshot to post #2 today (Clan of Embers). Next post is about Rise from Erebus and Ashes of Erebus, so it will take a bit more time because I wanna try a couple more games with that mod. I really want to find something that RifE/AoE added that I actually consider a worthwhile addition.
     
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    Yea MoM is a classic example of adding more and more features, thus abandoning the initial premise (slightly expanded gameplay and good AI), fucking up everything in the process. His global magic system was brilliant, should have left it at that and polished the gem, but Sephi went on to change the economic system over and over and then left.
     
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    that's xtended, not the real master of mana =_=
     
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    Redownloaded Fall from Heaven II and the patch. I loaded it up and the title said Master of Magic and has their unique Leaders.

    What the fuck!?

    I confirmed I downloaded the right one too. This is a fresh Civ IV BTS install.
     
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    Are you trying EMM? It might be just the main screen, since you can change it freely. EMM adds some scenario leaders like Hafgan the Purger (Clan of Embers), but no new civ. Can you see the Scions of Patria, for example?
     
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    Two games in at Prince and I've been fucked in both. Now this is a new experience.
     
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    I think I might lose my Clan of Embers Immortal game (the one on the SS). Armageddon counter is at 97, Avatar of Wrath already showed up (and I killed it). Nobody wants to sign a peace treaty. I'm scared :(
     
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    Allright, you've done it, I'm reinstalling FfH2. How did that stardock game where Kael got involved turn out to be?
     
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    Shit, how'd I miss this? 7 years late or not, you're a bro for bringing this to my attention, Eyestabber :salute:
     
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    bad.
    he couldn't/wasn't let do his magic and had basically no impact on the extremely dull finished game.
     
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    You know, I don't think I've ever played as a Good aligned civ and I've been playing since FFH1 (which i dont think had alignment). The Evil civs generally seemed more fun and interesting.

    Which should I play as? The only one I can think of that plays uniquely are the Kuriotates. (Mercurians don't count since they're basically reverse Infernals)

    For reference, I usually play Sheaim, Calabim, or Illian.
     
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