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The Denuvo DRM Thread

Astral Rag

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RiME sure looks like crap. What is it, a 5 hour long Ico clone for millennials? They even managed to make UE look like a generic Unity game :lol:
 
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adrix89

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I heard he cried 2 days before, because they were nasty at him.
Yep. They are totally not paying Denuvo shit if they get cracked. I am starting to feel sorry for Denuvo. They should not have provided this slimy hypocrites with anything.
 

Executr

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The game is already cracked. In 5 days. Fastest one along with Resident Evil 7.
The cracker explained that the DRM was causing stuttering and slowdowns:

“But the game will be much better without that huge abomination called Denuvo. In Rime that ugly creature went out of control – how do you like three fucking hundreds of THOUSANDS calls to “triggers” during initial game launch and savegame loading? Did you wonder why game loading times are so long – here is the answer.

In previous games like Sgw3, Nier, Prey there were only about 1000 “triggers” called, so we have x300 here. Next – 300,000 called “triggers” were just warmup for Denuvo, after 30 minutes of gameplay it became 2 f’ing MILLIONS of called “triggers”. Protection now calls about 10-30 triggers every second during actual gameplay, slowing game down. In previous games like Sgw3, Nier, Prey there were only about 1-2 “triggers” called every several minutes during gameplay, so do the math.”
 

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There is interesting version why appeared Denuvo v.4 without VMProtect. Here is a translation of post in russian part of internet. Source of the post in russian: http://rsdn.org/forum/shareware/6733058
"I want to tell you a story about one very clever and greedy Austrian company called Denuvo Software Solutions GmbH.
This company in due time has let out the system called Denuvo and the most remarkable in this history that in this system absolutely illegally uses our VMProtect. About 3 years ago in the electronic correspondence we already discussed the options for using VMProtect technology in their system, to which they received a fairly clear answer, that such an option is simply impossible, because cost of developing something similar for a "competing" company will be more than a hundred kilodollars and provide them with a $500 serial product for this purpose simply impractical. But this didn't stopped the Austrian developers and after officially bought VMprotect they started mowing loot. Everything went well until we corrected the claim that due to the unlicensed use of VMprotect, their license was canceled and options were offered for solving the problem through signing an amicable agreement, with compensation for us forfeit in a modest amount by their measure. Our proposal was ignored.
So: 1. We have given out signatures to antiviruses we cooperate with. Respect to Sophos: "For some reason my wife’s copy of Sophos keeps detecting a VMProtBad flag on one of the game’s dll files. Is there a lapsed license for protection with EA/BioWare that needs to be sorted out or did the system flag it on accident?"
  1. At the moment, we have asked the VALVE support to contact the legal department in order to explain to them the "danger" of cooperation with these scammers.
  2. Through our long-standing partners from Intellect-C, we are starting to prepare an official claim to Denuvo Software Solutions GmbH with the prospect of going to court, which can be a very good lesson for "greedy" developers who do not care about the intellectual rights of their colleagues in the shop.
In general, proceeding to flogging the next bad people."
Of course it might be just ruskies being ruskies and talking when wasted.
 

Don Peste

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Several users, including me have tried to debug the generator but as said, its HEAVILY protected by VMProtect.

What we know so far (related to it being malware free), is:
  • It doesnt create any startup windows' process, so any troyan or keylogger is started on windows start

  • It does not send http request of any kind

  • It does not create any other kind of process if the stp-dh2.exe is executed alone

  • It DOES search the Windows Registry to look for Steam folder in order to emulate appid/license check.

  • It creates a 100% accurate denuvo id for the entirety of your hardware.
The only thing remaining is that said malware is executed only when stp-dh2.exe is, but again, this can't be code tested as the .exe itself is protected.

Things you can do for now to protect is enable all kind of antimalware/virus and block all .exes in the Windows Firewall.

The "only works with this steam emu" issue is NOT a problem for security UNLESS the emu is also infected with any malware. This is due that they use their emu to inject the dbdata into the game files. CPY's Crack does the exact same thing, their keygen is much less complex but the concept is basically the same.

So far there are NOT any real possible threats to your computer BESIDES the crypto functions, and so far no one has reported any issue with the crack so i THINK we are good, at least NOW.
:bunkertime:
Edit: Toilet read https://www.sans.org/reading-room/w...ting-malware-sandbox-evasion-techniques-36667
 
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Self-Ejected

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If somebody just wanted to distribute malware why would they go to the effort of cracking/bypassing a game that dodged every other group. They'd just add it to existing release on piratebay.
 

Don Peste

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If somebody just wanted to distribute malware why would they go to the effort of cracking/bypassing a game that dodged every other group. They'd just add it to existing release on piratebay.
Sure, Plain Russian Evil would take the shortest path. But James Bond Evil... It is a mystery...
 

InD_ImaginE

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If it's true doesn't it mean every Denuvo game released so far is cracked?

It is not. Well it is actually in between. Denuvo uses different code/call for each game and for each PC setup. Example: you have A brand motherboard B brand VGA C brand processor. The key things would be different for different games. The opposite also works true, with the same game, if you have different hardware, you will need to get different code.

Now, depending on this scene groups method to get the codes this might imply easier time cracking future Denuvo games. But they might do it the 3DM way aka brute forcing everything with as much as different setup possible, so I don't know about it.

Also you have to notice that this method does not remove Denuvo. For games like Rime which had dogshit performance because bad implementation/having shit-ton of Denuvo triggers, this kind of crack wouldn't help. Dishonored 2 is also somewhat badly optimized and while I do not know how much of it was caused by Denuvo, we certainly won't get the usual several fps increase claim that people usually said after a cracked Denuvo games came out.
 

Raghar

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So, what games that use Denuvo are worth playing?

Is there even one?
Prey.
(but they released it with really bad bugs)
Now after year of patching and making things worse, Warhammer: Total War. Now it's only mildly crashing experience, with totally balanced units, means bland.
I'm not exactly sure I like the direction they went with Outsider. But I didn't played DLC for original Dishonored, thus I don't remember if they started with downward spiral with Dishonored story in DLCs, or if it was new in Dishonored 2.

And if you are expecting ME4 to be something like a telenovela, instead of new SW movie (actually last SW movie was a crap), you might have fun. But if you had high expectation after ME2... Well two main developers left company, and it went downhill DURING ME3.

Decent games removed Denuvo after cracking.
 

Raghar

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Dawn of War 3 has been cracked. Two groups joined forces. (Actually each group is a single person, but that's just a small detail.)

Now you can play one of the most disapointing games this year for free.
 

Raghar

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Looks like CPY was working on some of these games released by Baldman, or the other group, and they scraped the work, then they did a game that nobody worked on, aside of MKDEV.

Sometimes competition hurts players.
 

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