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The BioWare and Mass Effect Thread!

Discussion in 'Made for Console Popamole RPGs' started by Wyrmlord, Dec 19, 2011.

  1. Lambchop19 Learned

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    My little bro is in his early 20s and is a hardcore casual gamer. He is truly the target audience of every game developer on the planet.

    He'd never play games like Fallout 1 & 2 - but loved Fallout 3. He and his buddies played a ton of Skryrim; he was playing Modern Warfare 3 the day it was released; he loved KOTOR; and he loved the Mass Effect games - he even pre-ordered the ME3 collector's edition and read all 4 of the books!

    So understand how shocked I was when he told me how much he hated Mass Effect 3. He said he loved the first 95% of the game, but the ending ruined it to such a degree that he said he'd never play another Bioware game again unless they released free dlc changing the ending. He said it ruined both the previous games for him and made him feel like he wasted his time. He said it depressed him so much that he woke up in the middle of the night thinking about it and the he wished he'd never played any of the games.

    This guy is THE average consumer. He's not a nerd that plays video games all day. He's an average guy with a job, friends, and other things to do with his life. He would normally never say anything bad about a game. If I started criticizing one he'd get angry and say I was being negative.

    Congrats EA/Bioware - you just pissed off your target demographic. :lol:
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    Jesus Christ, this thread and the thread linked on the BSN is fucking glorious.

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  3. Lambchop19 Learned

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    Oh, well that's just mean...
    edit: i lol'd tho
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    :lol:
    :bro:
    Maybe someone should invite that Graddod guy to the codex
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    "Truly this is the dawn of a new age for the codex, the post-volourn era. Volly was indoctrinated a long time ago, even though he thinks he still has control over his own mind"
    So indocintrated.. that I boguht KOTOR MMO... oh yeah, no I didn't.

    Then again, I prfer spending my time bashing the ME3 intro not the above average ending which beats out most of BIO's other games endings. LMFAO
  7. Grimlorn Savant

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    I like this. They should have had the rest of the Shepard series dedicated to Spectre business and saving the galaxy, maybe investigating some bad Spectre activity since he handled Saren in ME1. Then after the Shepard series is over they could start over 500-1k years in the future with Reapers almost arriving, (New Hero) do the whole Collector business in the first game and have the Reapers almost arriving in the second game. Then they could justify some resistance through technological advances. There's just so much potential here. They ruined it.
  8. Ed123 Liturgist Patron

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    Well, they re-opened the forum.

    The butthurt must flow.

    edit: I love the odd biodrone or two who keep posting:

    :lol:
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    Hahaha. I've got John Epler on my BSN friends list and my feed is telling me that he's posted/locked like half a dozen threads in the past 30 minutes.

    I retract any and all criticism I previously had about Mass Effect 3 and BioWare in general.

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  10. dextermorgan Scholar

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    I got sidetracked with the whole Obsidian/Bethpizda business and I return to find... This? Bioware, I thank you. I haven't had this much fun in gaming since FNV.
  11. WhiskeyWolf RPG Codex Polish Plumber Patron

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    It's like Bioware decided to do a marathon through a minefield and somehow they are stepping on every-goddamn-mine.
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    You know what? I like the direction where Bioware is going :smug:
  13. Lagole Gon Savant

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    + The biggest butthurt in the whole history of Bioware.
    + Double Fine's adventure game
    + Wasteland 2
    + BG remake (be optimistic bros)

    2012 - the year of :incline:
  14. Joghurt Learned

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    Hey Codex help me understand one thing...

    Wasn't Mass Effect planned as a trilogy right from the start? So how come they didn't have the ending figured out let's say right after the first mass effect. I'm not a writer and never will be but it seems fucking strange when you're working on a story for a multi million dollar AAA games and you don't have the story and it's main outlines for a whole trilogy written and figured out for example during the first game's production...

    As I see it they didn't have a clue about the ending of their trilogy right up until the October/November 2011 which seems fucking weird...
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    It's called incompetence.
    Sceptic Brofists this.
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    My fucking sides, bros
    Esquilax, skuphundaku and abnaxus Brofist this.
  17. WhiskeyWolf RPG Codex Polish Plumber Patron

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    Pretty much. Planned the trilogy - no. Hired a new lead writers for every new game - yes(although wikipedia says something totally different).
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    IIRC some developer confirmed that when making ME1 story, they had approximately half a page synopsis of ME2 and about a single paragraph worth on ME3. Also the head writer changed in between the installments and I seem to remember reading somewhere that the originally planned ending had something to do with the dark energy heavily foreshadowed in ME2.

    tl;dr version - Bioware never had any clue about the ending and the whole "we have the trilogy planned out" was just marketing bullshit
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    I'm pretty neutral on Bioware or ME, but I find this whole issue strangely entertaining to watch...



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    Just look at this shit.

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    Probably they have lost notebook pages with the original endings.
    Or someone covered them with cock doodles.
    ( :smug: )
  23. Grimlorn Savant

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    They do this shit all the time with movies and tv. They don't plan ahead. It's the same with games. They probably planned out that they wanted to import your decisions over 3 games and that's it. They changed writers after ME1 too.
  24. meanwhileInPoland Educated

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    dont know if true or if anyone still care, but funny to read how much they scraped the role of harbringer in this game.

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    :what::x:rage:

    is this retard for real? dragon age 2 has better end boss than this shit
  25. evdk comrade troglodyte Patron

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    That still would've made a better ending.

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