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The big 4X thread (also unofficial patches + mods, also questions about these)

Discussion in 'Strategy Gaming' started by JarlFrank, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. Make America Great Again Turisasgender: ⚧ Arch Devil Patron

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    Bullshit, actually. They recently (well, months ago) added viewports which eliminated a lot of issues related to the crummy engine. It'll split the map to sections (the dimensions can be adjusted) so you could play a massive map and it'll load only the section you're currently in. Still not the most stable game out there, but now you can at least play those larger maps where before you would've gotten a MAF error after few turns every time.
     
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    Anyone know of any decent 4X games for Android, or is my best hope to install emulators for Moo2 or Civ?
     
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    well i dont know but if you can install emulator and start MOO2 its a heaven
     
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  4. Make America Great Again The Brazilian Slaughtergender: ⚧ Arcane

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    Jarlfrank, please add Conflict on Chiron by Monaldinho, which is a Civilization 4 mod based on Planetfall but different, namely the author takes some inspiration from the Call to Power series and its mechanics. He's also German so you can speak with him in your bizarre moonspeak if you want.
     
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  5. Cavarongender: ⚧ Novice

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    For sure there is:
    http://lordbrazen.blogspot.de/2005/01/moo2v140-patch-faq.html
    http://masteroforion2.blogspot.de/

    Including a still active community playing it online via the web (DosBox and direct IP connection). There is even a mod to make the races more balanced (there are three different custom-races possible in the original, which are unbeatable ueber).
     
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  6. Rpgsaurus Rexgender: ⚧ Guest

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    Unfortunately, yes.
     
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    C-EVO, Dominions 3, Colonizations 1 2 & free, Cosmic Supremacy and Star Wars Supremacy.
     
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  8. Dimgender: ⚧ Not sure if advertising plant?

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    In case you want to research and to be really thorough. Oh and moddb and indiedb naturally.
     
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    No MoO3? I know all the kool kids hate it but it's actually a very deep game, with an insane amount of mods out there.

    Imperium Galactica 2 - Still has the best planet management of any 4X game out there.

    Also: BotF link doesn't work when you actually try to download the game. Something about a "restricted area". For shame.
     
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    If by deep, you mean undocumented and broken so no one knows how anything works.
     
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    Oh that reminds me of Star General by SSI.
     
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    Sure, if you're a complete and utter moron you might not be able to figure it out, but proper 4X games tend not to have a quest compass and on-screen tutorial telling you when to press the A-button.
     
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  14. Zardozgender: ⚧ Educated

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    I second the dominions 3 and Alpha Centauri recs I still play them a lot despite the shitty ai but then again strategy game ais suck in general anyways. I'm having a lot of fun with distant worlds so far lately as well.

    Moo3 was different from the rest of the series but with mods it's not that bad indeed despite being somewhat botched on release. The only things that really bothered me were the long mid turn waiting and the uber carriers in the end game owning everything else or worse stalling combat forever since they can just flee and leave their fighters.
     
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    You are quite blunt, but yes Moo3 seemed to just be a tad too complicated for most 'morons'.

    I did only play it for a short period, some months, until me and a friend of mine had mastered the highest difficulty. The games were very long compared to the classic Moo2. I did hear that the community had fixed the game into a quite decent game, through modding, but when googling around it always seemed to be that it was dead. Not getting a mention in this thread is just one other example of that.

    I have put a lot of hours into Civ5, too.. is it just the rule that if a game is new(ish) then it is shunned on the codex?
     
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    A general rule of thumb on the Codex is that anything released after Fallout 2 is complete shit. Of course, most new games are indeed shit but this attitude means the games that are actually any good also automatically get dismissed as crap just because they are newer. If the game is buggy on release, like Moo3, it gets even worse. Very few people will go back years later after patches and mods have fixed most issues and change their opinions.
     
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    Emperor of the fading suns could ahve literally been the best 4x evar! Yes better than moo or civ or whatever

    too bad they fucked it up. I spent hours on it regardless but i was younger and more willing to put up with stupid shit
     
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    Its not complex at all. just poorly designed and broken
    I'd even go so far as to say its very simple
     
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    EoFS is only playable with hyperion mod. And hyperion is bugged like Empire: Total War, which is the lowest mark.
    In vanilla you swim in cash and could use so much exploits it kills all the fun.
    Great ideas and interesting setting but completely obliterated by lack of polish. If someone would restart the franchise with proper automatization of orders, especially with "Universal Warehouse" and proper balancing that would be awesome.
    EoFS was one of thefew real competitor to Civilization series. Sadly, failed to develop.
     
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    You are trying too hard. Any harder and your hardon would burst. A simple counter point to your argument is to check the latest RPGCodex top ten list. THAT will slap you silly with its multiple cockheads oh gawwwwd~
     
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    So complaining about all the tryhard edginess means I'm trying too hard?

    :hmmm:
     
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    Stop nesting quotes ffs.
     
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  23. SCOgender: ⚧ Arcane In My Safe Space

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    Play MoO1. It's much less heavy than MoO2 and funner, imo.
     
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    i think that we need new space 4x turn based fast or we gona die
     
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    Obviously. It is the attitude, the intent behind the actions, not the content. You could have complaint about jews being jews and/or haters gonna hate, and your trying too hard still showing through.
     
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