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Community The Age of Incline: RPG Codex's 2012-2016 GOTY Results

Discussion in 'RPG Codex News & Content Comments' started by felipepepe, Feb 8, 2017.

  1. thesheeep Arcane

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    I think I would've preferred two lists, one for action-RPGs (Witcher 3, Dark Souls, Borderlands...) and one for actual RPGs.
     
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  2. Lurker King Arcane The Real Fanboy

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    don't give me that crap. you wrote positive reviews for both Shadowrun games and that's the result of praising shallow games for graphics. you made your bed. now sleep in it.
     
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  3. Konjad High on potatoes Patron

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    and one for jRPGs, and one for turn-based RPGs, and one for story-focused RPGs, and one for music-focused RPGs, and one for your mom.
     
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    I can't play the potato GOTY because of potato pc.

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  5. thesheeep Arcane

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    Leave my mom out of this and I will leave yours out of the next bearded man competition.

    Thing is, when you use the only logical definition of RPG - character skill > player skill -, you only need two lists. And one would include all the sub-genres you mentioned. While the other would include... well, action games, for example.

    What is a music-focused RPG, though?
     
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    Encouraged by !#angels erudite reply, I'll continue with the non-causal, non-representative but descriptive analysis:

    SUPRISE SUPRISE: The Former Analysis was Shit, because excel did not delete the NA or empty cells (or rather I did not). Here are the new averages (and the respective breakdown of grades) of this sub-population:
    AoD

    1 2 3 4 5
    6 9 38 57 100

    mean(AoD)
    [1] 4.12381


    UR
    1 2 3 4 5
    3 9 22 78 98

    mean(UR)
    [1] 4.233333



    W3
    1 2 3 4 5
    7 15 25 62 101

    mean(W3)
    [1] 4.119048



    The correlation of votes between AoD and UR was weak* 0.23 and highly significant (p-obs < 0.001), suggesting that there is at least a little bit of tendency for people who like one to like the other.

    Whereas the correlation between AoD and W3 and UR and W3 was nonexistant, and stat. insignificant (corr=0.03, p.obs=0.62 and corr=0.017, p.obs=0.805), meaning that there are very little in common in terms of voting behavior amongst this subgroup when it comes to W3 and the two other games.

    (*)I wrote originally mild, which is in some stats books .2-0.4
     
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  7. Mark Richard Learned

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    Using an extended time frame like this allows us a more meaningful look at the trends and moods of gaming, and it seems to support my mindset. I've never harboured the apocalyptic fantasies of fellow gamers who claim the world is decaying and in the grim dark future there is only war. Indeed, I'm quite optimistic about the future. We've had some truly great RPGs. While Triple A continues to look more and more unsustainable, Indi has thrived. Games are now pitched directly to the audience instead of a marketing middleman named Steve (I hate that guy), and a budding developer has options. It feels as if we have an environment where if a developer has talent and a really good idea, they're more likely than ever to get their shot.
     
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  8. Matt with a full stop at the end Arcane Patron

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    Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Eternal Sonata, I think. Never played it so can't attest to its quality.
     
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  9. MediantSamuel Savant Patron

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    To be fair to 2016 & Fallout 1.5: Resurrection; it's actually a really, really good mod.
     
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  10. meanwhileInPoland Arcane

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    so twelve hours of cutscenes and about 500 hundreds shitty "points of interest" is what it takes to win goty on codex?
    lets disregard shitty combat, braindead quest design, awful character development system and illusory c&c.

    but muh graphix, muh romances, muh barons questline!!! better writting than PST!!!:salute:

    wezcie spierdalajcie na wykop polaczki jebane :M
     
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  11. Matt with a full stop at the end Arcane Patron

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    The combat was a bit shitty but since when did that make a game less of a good RPG?

    Planescape Torment, Arcanum, Vampire: Bloodlines, Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Morrowind all had shitty combat.

    The character development system was awful though, I agree. But for me, the quest design was actually great, the attention to detail, the reactivity etc all made up for it. C&Cs were only illusory if you played it with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears.
     
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  12. Florian Gheorghe Savant

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    I know how you feel but in fact the GOTY edition with all the patches runs better then vanilla. It still remains the most demanding game out there for my potato but at least I can play it.
     
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  13. Make America Great Again Azalin Arcane Patron

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    Dragon's Dogma is number 7?That's impressive,I hadn't realized so many people around here liked it,maybe I should add it to my steam wishlist
     
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  14. Prime Junta Arcane

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    Twitcher 3 was ok for what it is. Some good bits, some bad bits, a shitton of stupid pointless filler, and very pretty.

    I think it is telling that it got the top spot though. :decline:
     
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    You still didn't answer my question about causality, nor representativeness.


    1. Of course it's not serious measurements, it's a frikking poll about video games. The Sawyer was provided as an example of a causal intervention, not necessarily a realistic one.
    2. I haven't thought of that but that sounds good. What do you think are my chances? TBH, this stuff isn't very hard or demanding, I don't think anyone would be impressed by it, just good fun.
    3. It's no more meaningless or meaningful than the poll itself. It's all for good fun. I can only suspect you've never been to a boardroom or done any statistics.
     
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  16. Sjukob Savant

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    Just wanted to say that everyone who thinks The witcher 3 is a great game , is on the same level of degradation as morrowfags .
     
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  17. IncendiaryDevice Arcane The Real Fanboy

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  18. Bester Arcane Vatnik

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    Infinitron did this poll change your mind at all about your phrases such as "That PoE is bad is a myth perpetrated by a small, but vocal minority while the majority of the codex loves this game". Do you still believe this? I just want to measure how detached from reality you are. Did this bring you back to earth or did you fly away even further after seeing this poll?
     
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  19. meanwhileInPoland Arcane

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    how is following the red trail/clicking on all available icons/watching cutscene/choosing one of two available dialogues line a great quest design? there is literally no input from the player. in novihrad there is like one fucking quest where you can fail(vampire killer). everything else is just you making the same braindead actions with geralt telling you exactly what needs to be done.

    c&c are nothing more than choosing one of two options in dialogues and watching shitty custcene. there are no consequences besides of geralt comenting on the outcome. there are no consequences for player in gameplay or changes to the state of in-game world(inb4 clearing out bandit camps leads to peasants moving in :roll: )
    compare it to MotB and choosing between oku/one of many.

    witcher3 is fucking GTA with swords. a good looking action game with better than average writting but its not a good crpg.
     
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  20. Make America Great Again Infinitron Trade Master Patron

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    Good rating 48.6%, bad rating 20.9%? I'm not losing any sleep lol
     
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  21. Paul_cz Savant

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    So despite some butthurt morons, most people on Codex actually do have a good taste capable of recognizing quality. Fallout Resurrection was great and deserve to be so high, so do Witcher 3, AoD and Underrail. I didn't play Original Sin much, but from what I read it has a great combat system and should be pretty good too. Dark Souls is also great, although personally I don't classify it as an RPG much (any game whose gameplay consists almost exclusively of combat - like Diablo or Dark Souls - I consider more as an action game). I have Dragonfall and Dragon's Dogma on my list to play this year, already bought, so I am glad to see them high - hopefully I will agree with Codex and enjoy them.
     
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    Yeah, the only minor problem here it is not the RPG.
    Just one minor microissue.
     
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    What grade is ERK?
     
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  24. felipepepe Prestigious Gentleman Codex's Heretic Patron

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    People who voted on last year's poll but not on this one.
     
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  25. l3loodAngel Proud INTJ Patron

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    There are methods.
    1. So don't pretend that it's valid. JS example was especially stupid. Might as well name it "causal penetration" for a bigger dramatic effect.
    2. With how things are going? May need some "enlargement pills" for your "Statistical manhood".
    3. I don't do it daily in my job, did pure stats just in Uni. I have done mostly econometrics, because I believe that descriptive statistics are voodoo. But you just love it so much.
     

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