Tacticular Cancer: We'll have your balls

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Suggestion thread for codex-themed content in Wasteland 2

Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by Shannow, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. Kosmonaut Lost in Space

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    I think that there's a lot expectations on Hiver capabilities, after all, he's the one to come with this piece of art:

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    So I think that he's trolling us with that "pile of feces" draw, and he'll eventually make something better.
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  2. hiver Dumbfuck!

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    Teepo, every post you make makes you look as a complete dumbfucking internet retard.

    Generally, yes.

    I like this concept.

    I tell you guys, we should just collect all the lulzy stuff, especially that of CK (just get rid of the fuckin white armor, have it atleast be stained and rusted if not just gray ffs... have the girl offer the player both closed hands as if she is hiding something in one of them and add slurping forests somewhere instead of what is there now for you know who) - and throw it all into the "Codex" as a section of it.


    Then you limit the access like sgc_meltdown suggests here, based on intelligence and related skills level, with pretty much same consequences.
    With the difference that its actually showing these weird and various parts of Codex lost tribe of "monocled gentlemen" great and ultimate plans for world domination and obliteration of Great Decline.
    It can show all of it, but just say "You manage to decipher small parts of the codex while others remain beyond the reach of your stunned mind almost making your int/wis balk and run in fear".
    Or, if its possible, we can make it just show parts of it like "easter eggs of the Great Plan" or other sections.

    Characters with incredibly high Int or Wisdom would have just the third option sgc_meltdown wrote above but they would get all the clues or codes to get the mysterious ultimate weapon from the statue.

    Then we have the cake and eat it too, as i see it.


    And dont forget the RPG, which the Codex book could lead you to, if you have good enough skills - otherwise you dont get the clue to it - or you can get just a partial clue telling you a particular skill is too low to understand the glorious codex fully - so you know you can return once you improved that skill or skills - VOILA gameplay.
    It would be just mysteriously described as "the ultimate weapon against the Great Decline and its drones." Could be hidden in the statue but not accessible until you managed to unlock appropriate parts of teh Codex.

    And the monocle artifact - which would work only with this ultimate weapon increasing chance to hit or similar stat.
    The RPG itself could bear the name of : "Hard core" RPG engraved into it. Limited ammo though.

    Have a few different grenades as ammo, all having a stun effect, some being armor piercing, others being gas grenades that make enemies cry or laugh maniacally, reducing some of the stats they have (morale, APs, precision or similar).
    Works best against low and moderate intelligence-wisdom enemies maybe?
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  3. Teepo Learned

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    Sounds about as subtle and well thought out as Bethesdea's Fallout 3. But I bet you liked that game. That should indicate how fit you are to make decisions about the content for this game.

    In one word, it sounds derp, which is ironic since the 'dex is so critical about games that contain derp. Next he'll suggest that we'll be able to blow up Megaton.

    Maybe I'm overly critical though. What the game needs is quantity, imo. Lots of weapons, lots of skills, lots of abilities. I don't particularly care for fluff.
  4. hiver Dumbfuck!

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    Well the fuck make a better suggestion ffs..
    It is done based on sgc_meltdown post. Its just bloody simple.
    - besides reflecting the actual level of things and being a bit self ironic.

    or are you suggesting that even a genius couldnt figure out the codex? or that we should force every player to go through all the "lulz" we can come up with?
    or do you think its enough to go around and just say : "Shit, shit, shit sucks, shit i dont care anyway" and imagine a monocle, like skyway?
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  5. Teepo Learned

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    I don't have a better suggestion. And I was serious when I said the statue you designed is good, it's just cum colored.

    I can't pass judgement on your suggestions if they're good or bad. We surpassed $5,000 so the statue is going in, so we should take this opportunity and make the best of it. Your version of the statue looks good particularly the codex bro with the spear.

    What I want is a Fallout 2 style unarmed combat system where as you progress in skill in unarmed combat you unlock jabs, hooks, hip kicks, roundhouses, maybe even judo throws. Really I want an expansion of the concepts in Fallout 2 and their logical extension. It would be simpler to add a statue though.
  6. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    My humble suggestions:
    A NPC dressed as monk as DU suggested, only name him the key holder.
    From him you can loot , steal, acquire as reward for a quest the Codex Proverbii, that contains a map and a password, the map will lead to the statue of Maximum Caesar Augustus , the password is BSN.
    When you found the statue, there will be a panel for entering the password.
    In this way you will gain access to the Sol Invictus shrine.
    For what to find inside the shrine I don't know.
    What do you think?
  7. Metro Magister

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    Er... the donation reward is for a statue/shrine... not your choice of combat/character progression mechanic added to the game.
  8. Teepo Learned

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    I could not care less, Metro.

    To clarify, I'm simply voicing what I think would make a better game in general, and also what aspects of those are Codexian in nature.
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  9. Clockwork Knight Arcane

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    A statue, shrine or whatever else we can think of. It can be something as simple and subtle as having the password to an electronically locked door be "BEESFLYVERTICALLY". Or a prostitute that is strangely well-versed in latin and greek philosophy. Or finding a black cat inside a dungeon-like sewer system.

    It's sad how a dumb sack of shit like me can think of a thousand things in seconds while you monocled gentlemen keep derping about the fucking statue

    Because Fargo said that he would sneak in some easter egg if we raised some money. That's it. No one decided that getting a statue was more important than the chance to suggest combat mechanics, it's just what was offered to us.

    Some of you seem to be under the impression we can order Fargoth around because we donated to the project, like the biodrones who seem to think that romances and emotional engagement should be in the game because they donated to the project.

    We can't, and thank fucking god for that. All it would take to ruin the game is a biodrone fundraising campaign.

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  10. Metro Magister

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    Except that has nothing to do with this thread.
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  11. hiver Dumbfuck!

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    Eh...ah...
    We cant get stuff like that. Its not given. Rewards for funds are clearly stated on kickstarter page and thats it.
    Fargo said he could possibly throw us in a shrine apart from the statue. Shrine which is only given for 10,000 moneys regularly.
    + an artifact item, smaller additional stuff like digital copies, concept art, boxed collectors edition and stuff like that,... So thats all we are getting and everyone who can read knew it.

    So why dont you read teepo, it seems youre capable.
    I also said that the drawing is just a first draft and asked for any opinions or suggestions so i dont waste time going into detail on something that majority find wrong in some way.
    READ MY F`ING WORDS!!!
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  12. Teepo Learned

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    I'd rather not, you're a terrible writer. (I'M JOKING ITS A JOKE DONT RAGE AT ME)

    I agree with you there. I didn't donate any money so my comments are simply take it or leave it. I'm pretty content with that.
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  13. Teepo Learned

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    Ok. I suppose you're right.

    I just hope this artifact weapon isn't going to be like Fallout 3's nuke gun. The monocle that's a targeting device is not bad though.
  14. hiver Dumbfuck!

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    I got this done on the second day but didnt feel i should show you fucks anything. On account of numerous comments the first one got. (three brosfists appreciated as a sign im not too far of the mark)


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  15. DarkUnderlord Janitor

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    Why is there a horse in it?

    Why isn't he RIDING the MHD and skewering the Popamole?
  16. pipka Scholar

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    So desperate for recognition... Codex... :/
  17. hiver Dumbfuck!

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    because its a direct ... er... re-imagining on a very old school piece of art

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    An engraving showing a statue of St. George slaying the dragon, by J. E. Boehm, A.R.A. St. George is here depicted as an almost-naked man riding a horse, a Roman centurian wearing only sandals and a helmet, with a cape flowing about his shoulders and a spear in his hands with which he slays the scaly dragon.
    There is also a detail of the dragon in which the head is more clearly visible.
    According to Mr. Boehm, we cannot be Greeks, for we have no mythology. Our art must be Christian and modern. ‘It is in vain to complain of the paucity of inspiring subjects in our age, of our ugly costume and the dearth of suitable figures for sculpture. You may regard objects and compose like Homer, but you may not inanely copy the antique. Do not return from Rome with some more bad nymphs, another Venus or another Cupid. Try to use the much-abused dress. Treat a coat-sleeve, a woman’s gown, con amore, ennoble it by art, and it will be a pleasing object in the sight of those whose prainse is worth having.’ ” (p. 335)

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    And i asked for suggestions when i made just a first sketch!
    Whats an MHD and how would i draw a popamole? - ah ok, Multi headed Dick
    Whats it look like?

    besides, i meant to add letter to multi-dick tentacles and its "head".
    head would wear the great decline inscription, while tentacles would have the rest of deadly game development sins chiseled in too.
    popamole, real time, action, epic, emotional engagement, gay sex, whatever-
  18. hiver Dumbfuck!

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    this would just represent the codex role in the funding of WASTELAND 2, dickus retardimus

    I thought about adding the letters signifying this historic codex move above the statue, maybe in latin or something
  19. DarkUnderlord Janitor

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    Banned hiver.
  20. hiver Dumbfuck!

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    damn... :(

    - i meant what the popamole look like, above.
    I guess then i dont need to bother?
  21. Metro Magister

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  22. hiver Dumbfuck!

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    Yeah what? Im going to draw a mole head sticking out of the monument or something resembling a hole in it?
    That will look like a mole, not a popamole. I guess someone might connect it but thats only one aspect of bad game design anyway.
    -dont have any interest to troll the dragons either-
    I guess it wont be difficult to change the horse and use MHD instead though... but riding a horse does give it a more monocled aroma...hmm..

    -any ideas what can serve as Great Decline?
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  24. hiver Dumbfuck!

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    yeah, in that version and hundred others over all christendom.
    -just made one with troll riding the mhd and then my photoshop crashed... i fuckin love that-
  25. Kosmonaut Lost in Space

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    • Make multi headed Chtulhu outline less thick.
    • The light / shadow work is reallt wonky. Use just one source of light and stick with it for all the elements
    • Make the base of the statue less symmetric.
    • Where is the horse standing? It looks like it's floating.
    • Try to make the horse a little bit different. The reference you used is blatantly obvious.
    • Again, less thick outlines please.
    • Multi headed monster lacks shadowing, and Codex troll shadowing looks too cartoony.
    Although I apreciate your effort, I still like better Peter's work. It's simpler and as a small game element it has the possibility of standing out better.

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