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RTS Starcraft 2 goes free to play

Discussion in 'Strategy Gaming' started by Venser, Nov 3, 2017.

  1. Vensergender: ⚧ Savant

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    Starting with November 14th, SC2 becomes free to play. This includes episode 1: Wings of Liberty campaign and multiplayer (ranked laddder, co-op commander...).
    If you alrady paid for Wings of Liberty, you get Heart of the Swarm campaign for free.


     
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    I couldn't make it through 20 seconds of that faggot narrator.
     
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  3. Grifgender: ⚧ Learned

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    Is this a tacit admission that Starcraft 2 is more or less past its life as a viable commercial product?
     
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  4. Teepogender: ⚧ Scholar

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    I would think so. I played the Protoss campaign recently and it felt very dated. Paint by numbers campaign with a paint by numbers story. Kinda sad to see.
     
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  5. mwnn85gender: ⚧ Educated

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    Is that even up for debate? The game is several years old now plus it didn't have anywhere near the same impact as Brood War did.
    Wings of Liberty is regarded as being the best campaign. I imagine virtually everyone has played it by now - one way or another.

    Not entirely sure why it doesn't hold my attention like the original did, Starcraft 2 sounded great on paper.
    I can knock off points for the online only DRM, plot and splitting the game into 3 sub-par parts.
    It's not grimdark and it lacks the black humour the original had i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apgUUwwMvEE
    Unit selection was a mixed bag; I didn't like the THOR, looks like it belongs in a anime cartoon.

    I do think it has excellent unit path finding - probably the best I've seen.
    Some people are against it but I'd like to have to option of playing Brood War in the newer engine - complete with the original cutscenes and balance.
     
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  6. Vensergender: ⚧ Savant

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    Nah, it's just they recently added skins, voice packs etc so they have different ways to monetize the game so this makes sense. Free to play is the future of multiplayer and it'l help grow the playerbase.
     
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    Apparently you can get the Zerg part for free if you own Wings for Liberty, download this Blizzard App and log in between 8 nov and 8 dec. I loved the original, mostly because of the world, story and production waluses. Played a lot, after completing campaigns many times mainly SP skirmishes and MP with a neighbor (we had a coaxial cable thrown over the road on telephone poles for some hot IPX/SPX action).

    Bought WoL on release and did not like it at all. Haven't touched it since. This made me install this battle net app already. I want to check out kerrigans ass for the last time.
     
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  8. Vensergender: ⚧ Savant

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    btw for those who didn't know the original StarCraft and Brood War are also free to download on the Blizzard website.
     
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  9. MilesBeyondgender: ⚧ Savant

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    I actually thought LotV was SC2's best campaign. WoL and HotS had pretty crappy writing but with LotV it became even worse and plunged into "So bad it's good" territory.
     
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  10. luj1gender: ⚧ Savant

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    SCR = end of SC2. That's why they made it free.
     
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    Too little too late, imo. I highly doubt there are that many people left on the fence that wanted to play this game but just haven't yet for some reason.

    Sounds like Mass Recall is the game for you, kiddo.

    You can't play Brood War in the newer engine complete with the balance though unless you're willing to make the selection limit 12, remove smart-casting, most autocasting, multiple-building selection, fuck around with the pathing so that units don't clump together the way they do in SC2, etc etc. So much of BW's balance is mechanical, i.e tied to the quirks of the game engine and the player's skill at manipulating those quirks. E.g certain unit comps (like corsair-reaver) just don't work unless you have enough APM/precision to force them to work, and anything in the game can basically kill anything else if you control it well enough.
    I think if the balance was non-mechanical like SC2 (i.e tied to the devs changing some units' stat numbers and totally devoid of the player's physical skill input or reasoning), that part of the game would completely disappear and you'd be left with something incredibly shallow and far less dynamic in comparison.
     
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  12. luj1gender: ⚧ Savant

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    That's a good post. I think SCR is the best iteration of StarCraft. And those quirks/engine bugs are really features which I think is awesome in a way.
     
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    I have seen that mentioned before but I'm an awkward bastard so probably can't be pleased either way - especially if it looks amateurish.
    Way back then AoE 2 was my favourite, followed by RoN. Not forgetting Total Annhilation followed by SupCom.
    I've seen my share of Korean Starcraft videos, it's amazing what they can make the units do. I don't aspire to that level of play.

    For me as far as Remastered is concerned:
    Some of the new unit portraits are bloody awful and/or have been retrofitted to fit in line with Starcraft 2.
    I think they've wiped out the grime/dirt/character of the units/buildings/spites by cleaning them up and adding neon glow everywhere.
    Never liked the low selection limit of 12.
    The unit pathfinding/behaviour is none existent compared to something like AoE 2 (which was excellent with it's formations)

    Starcraft 2 felt underwhelming overall but I like small touches like the new supply depots (never had a unit get stuck in one!) and some of the new units.
    Are the Koreans even playing the Remastered release?
    Quite frankly if they're not using it then surely the project was a bit of a failure?
    I don't see it as being worth £13.

    All I really wanted the original assets sharpened up, movies cleaned up, widescreen support and the pathing/formations improved - £5. The unit selection for all three factions and the differences between them was always perfect.
    It seems like a bit of half baked product which struggles to please anyone; the die hards will still be playing Brood War with all it's quirks in 20 years time.
     
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  14. ArchAngelgender: ⚧ Magister

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    No they won't because SCR brought automated matchmaking.
     
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    Yes they most certainly are, lmfao

    AfreecaTV Starleague is at the end of Season 4, and Season 5 will be starting shortly after. The Korean pro-scene is back (albeit not at the scale it was during the Kespa era, but then again SC2 isn't at its 2012 peak either so what can you do) and people are playing the game. The remaster did not fail by any stretch. Just because Westerners can't be happy and want the game to made dumbfuckstupidforcasuals doesn't mean it failed.
     
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    For me the original and Broodwars look far better than that boring plastic shit called SC2.
     
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    I wonder if SCII going F2P will bring some life to it. Because every online player coming to SCII will know that at some point there will be a plank of no-life nation and upon reaching it their progression will stop.
    On the plus side. SCII is THE ONLY RTS which is somewhat alive and being supported.
     
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  18. ArchAngelgender: ⚧ Magister

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    Best thing about this for me is that I will get access to 2nd campaign for free since I only bought WoL. Hopefully I also get full access to new Commanders that were normally unlocked by having 2nd campaign.
    Commander Co-op missions are best part of the MP for me since I gave up on 1v1 matchmaking long time ago.
     
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    Age of empires 2 mate,there is still pretty active community. I enjoy a game from time to time. Far superior game than sc2.
     
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  20. Grifgender: ⚧ Learned

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    Why would you want to play the HOTS campaign though? The story is a pile of dogshit, and Kerrigan as hero fucked up the balance for the rest of the campaign.
     
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  21. Wulfstandgender: ⚧ Liturgist

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    I'll play some ladder now that we've access to all of it for free. I quite enjoyed the design behind SC2's zergs, they look far cooler than their sc 1 counterpart, in my humble opinion.
     
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  22. ArchAngelgender: ⚧ Magister

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    Where did I say I want to? I am talking about getting access to more Co-op Commanders. I got the basic 3 to max level already :D
     
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    You prefer this plastic shit
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    over this beauty ?!?!
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    I like art direction and sounds of original better but I can't stand those controls anymore. For MP I definitely prefer SC II. All the UI conveniences and that perfect pathfinding.. But that's just me, dirty RTS casual. If Blizzard didn't mind risking mass korean suicides and also upgraded controls along with visuals for Remaster I would be playing it.

    Anyone else here playing SC II at casual level? I started getting into it only a month ago. Wouldn't mind adding people for private or team games. I'm only Silver League though.
     
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  25. Vensergender: ⚧ Savant

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    Diamond 2, started playing with Legacy of the Void.
     
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