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Star Wars Battlefront 2 - now with lootbox drama

fantadomat

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Another day, another day to play BF2. Game is still fucking awesome, and I have 140 hours in now. :D

Just keeps being fun.

At soon we get LAST JEDI CONTENT, in 1.5 weeks. Get hyped u niggas

Gon play Captain Phasma
Pretty sure that you haven't even bought the game. Even the shit trolls on the codex are not that stupid...hopefully.
 

Daedalos

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Another day, another day to play BF2. Game is still fucking awesome, and I have 140 hours in now. :D

Just keeps being fun.

At soon we get LAST JEDI CONTENT, in 1.5 weeks. Get hyped u niggas

Gon play Captain Phasma
Pretty sure that you haven't even bought the game. Even the shit trolls on the codex are not that stupid...hopefully.

Ow the edge.
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Fedora Master

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It would be poetic if the SW franchise was the one that brought EA to its knees finally.
You might even say that it rhymes, you know.

I doubt it'll happen though.
 
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Another day, another day to play BF2. Game is still fucking awesome, and I have 140 hours in now. :D

Just keeps being fun.

At soon we get LAST JEDI CONTENT, in 1.5 weeks. Get hyped u niggas

Gon play Captain Phasma
Just wait till THE TRUMP regulates the shit of your game and its makers, youre gonna cry like a little leftie marxist that you are.
 

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HaHa you fools thinking you can beat the decline. It's unstoppable. The people that actually give a fuck about the industry/games are vastly outnumbered, and not even backed by what is meant to be the frontline regulators: (game journos most of whom are publisher pawns). Only some form of heavy regulation can stop it. Yes that's potentially a slippery slope, but the industry is so fucked right now that it couldn't possibly get any worse for me. Heck, the banning of all game making period would still be an acceptable outcome to stop the decline, and I want to be a game dev! It would result in small underground incline at least and stop big business in its tracks.

Also, reposting this obligatory classic:

 
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fantadomat

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Would love to see some draconical regulations here, watching ceo's getting fucked in the ass with a 10 centimetre dildo will be worth the shit.
 

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Another day, another day to play BF2. Game is still fucking awesome, and I have 140 hours in now. :D

Just keeps being fun.

At soon we get LAST JEDI CONTENT, in 1.5 weeks. Get hyped u niggas

Gon play Captain Phasma

Shut the fuck up EA bot.
 

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EA not giving up on microtransactions in Star Wars Battlefront 2
"For us it's a great learning experience..."


By Robert Purchese Published 29/11/2017

For nearly two weeks the ability to buy controversial loot boxes in Star Wars Battlefront 2 has been unavailable, greying out the issue of the game being pay-to-win. EA said the ability to spend money in the game would return at "a later date" but we haven't heard anything since.

In that time the fallout caused by Star Wars Battlefront 2 loot boxes has widened. The Belgian Gaming Commission waded in, as did Hawaii State Representative Chris Lee, who publicly denounced EA's game as "a Star Wars-themed online casino designed to lure kids into spending money". With the movie Star Wars: Episode 8 - The Last Jedi fast approaching, the pressure is on.

But EA's resolve remains resolute. Speaking at a Credit Suisse conference yesterday, chief financial officer Blake Jorgensen said, "We're not giving up on the notion of MTX [microtransactions]."

When, then, will people be able to buy loot boxes in Star Wars Battlefront 2 again? "We haven't decided yet," he said.

"We're really watching how people are playing the game. We're trying to understand are there certain modes where MTX may be more interesting than not? What are the consumers saying about it? How are the consumers playing the game? What do the metrics look like? We're learning and listening to the community to decide how best to roll that out in the future."

How did EA fail to see the loot box problem coming? "We did some testing around the MTX model but not enough to really understand some of the reactions we ultimately got," Jorgensen said. There were bigger concerns at the time such as the beta working with millions of people playing.

"We pulled-off on the MTX because the real issue the consumer had was they felt it was a pay-to-win mechanic," he added. "The reality is: there's different types of players in games. Some people have more money than time, and some people have more time than money, and you want to always balance those two.

"For us it's a great learning experience. We are trying to run the company with an ear to the consumer at all times, not only in the testing phase but when the game is up and running. We're trying to build games that last for years, not for months... If we're not making mistakes along the way and learning from them, that's when you should worry about us. But our view is these are great opportunities for us to continue to tune the game, to adjust things."

To fix Star Wars Battlefront 2, I would pull all Star Card abilities - character abilities - out of loot boxes so there is no way to buy progression in the game. But if Star Cards came out then something else would have to go in, as loot boxes are EA's way - as Jorgensen put it - of "layering in another economic model to try and make up for some of the economics you lose" by not selling DLC.

The obvious solution is adding more character customisation options - more costumes, races, etc. - because for all the imagination poured into this aspect of Star Wars over the decades, Battlefront 2 displays very little of it. And there's hope. "We certainly might be able to do that," Jorgensen said.

He went on: "The one thing we're very focused on - and [Lucasfilm is] extremely focused on - is not violating the canon of Star Wars. It's an amazing brand that's been built over many many years. If you did a bunch of cosmetic things, you might start to violate the canon. Darth Vader in white probably doesn't make sense versus in black, not to mention you probably don't want Darth Vader in pink - no offence to pink but I don't think that's right in the canon.

"There might be things we can do cosmetically, and we're working with Lucas on that, but coming into it, it wasn't as easy as if we were building a game around our own IP where it didn't really matter. It matters in Star Wars, because Star Wars fans want realism. But Star Wars fans also may want to tailor things: different colour Lightsabers, things like that, so you may see something like that."

Mind you, a wider variety of customisation options might already be in the game. One enterprising sleuth by the name of Uninspired Zebra managed to uncover a hidden character customisation menu in Star Wars Battlefront 2, although it's not clear how.

For the moment, Star Wars Battlefront 2 treads water, steering towards a free bundle of The Last Jedi content arriving 13th December, packing two new heroes, Captain Phasma and Finn. Will EA attempt to reintegrate microtransactions for that high profile period, or will it wait until after?
 
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There has to come a time when you've spoken so much PR horseshit that it becomes like a medical condition. Everybody knows they're talking absolute rot. Everybody. So why the fuck do they persist in keeping up this tired and transparent facade? Like they're really protecting consumer interests and they're so goddamn invested in how to improve the experience and how MTX (suck my dick) can play into that. There's definately a lot of areas that can be improved upon, which means it's very important to properly analyse where things have gone wrong; in order to maximise the fans' extreme enjoyment of Star Wars: Battlefront 2it is vital to be able to commun-

Holy shit I need to take a step back.
 

Cael

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There is so much marketing speak in that one article that it generated enough hot air to power the planet for the next 2000 years. Our energy problems are solved!

Except, of course, all that hot air has rendered the planet lifeless...
 

fantadomat

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Maybe EA should make their marketing wing in to developers. Their shit is far more entertaining than the game. What kind of person you have to be,to come up with this drivel?! I wouldn't be surprised if Disney decides to fuck them over and pull their rights to mess up sw milking farm. I do hope that the new SW shit movie does bellow expectations. It will be a glorious shit throwing fight.
 

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What I don't get is why the SJWs are not going after EA. All that hot air must be worse for the climate than a million fossil-sueled power stations combined...! Think of the globull warming!
 

fantadomat

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What I don't get is why the SJWs are not going after EA. All that hot air must be worse for the climate than a million fossil-sueled power stations combined...! Think of the globull warming!
Because EA is progressive! Have you forgot the magical andromeda,also the protagonist of BF2 is a shit coloured woman.
 

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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-11-28-you-probably-dont-want-darth-vader-in-pink

"You probably don't want Darth Vader in pink"
EA CFO Blake Jorgensen says faithfulness to Star Wars canon prevented a cosmetic microtransaction model for Star Wars Battlefront II

Hahahahahaha

For months now, Electronic Arts has insisted it has been listening intently to fan complaints about Star Wars Battlefront II and how the game implements microtransactions. Speaking at the Credit Suisse 21st Annual Technology, Media & Telecom Conference today, EA CFO Blake Jorgensen had a chance to offer the company's takeaways from the whole experience, which came to a head earlier this month when the publisher temporarily deactivated microtransactions in the game just hours before launch.

"Listening to the consumer when they start playing the game, six months from now, and even six years from now, is very important for us," Jorgensen said. "And I would say if we're not making some mistakes along the way and learning from them, that's when you should worry about us. But our view is these are great opportunities for us to continue to tune the game, to adjust these things.

"We pulled off on the MTX, because the real issue the consumer had was they felt it was a pay-to-win mechanic. The reality is there are different types of players in games. Some people have more time than money, and some people have more money than time. You want to always balance those two."

When asked why EA didn't then pursue a microtransactions model centered around cosmetic items instead of gameplay boosts, Jorgensen said the company is working with LucasArts on ways to do cosmetic items, but added it's not as easy as it sounds when dealing with an established IP.

"The one thing we're very focused on and they're extremely focused on is not violating the canon of Star Wars," Jorgensen said. "It's an amazing brand that's been built over many, many years. So if you did a bunch of cosmetic things, you might start to violate the canon. Darth Vader in white probably doesn't make sense, versus in black. Not to mention you probably don't want Darth Vader in pink. No offense to pink, but I don't think that's right in the canon."

Despite the uproar over Battlefront II, Jorgensen still painted it as a positive for the publisher overall.

"The great news is this is one of the best games we've ever built," he said. "And we're hearing that from the players who are actually playing the game and engaging in the game. The retention day over day is better than we've seen in almost any of our games. The depth of the gameplay is incredible. The size of the game is incredible. And we'll be adding in the next couple weeks, more content than we've ever added in a game before."

While Jorgensen couldn't give a time frame as to when microtransactions would be turned back on in Battlefront II, it's clear EA is still committed to the idea.

"We're not giving up on the notion of MTX," Jorgensen said. "We're learning and listening to the community in terms of how best to roll that out in the future, and there's more to come as we learn more. But I would say we're certainly not changing our strategy. We think the strategy of deeply engaging games, keeping the community together, and allowing people to play those games with new content coming via events over time is critical to the future of our business. We feel like we've nailed that in the sports games, and we'll continue to try and find the best model that works in the non-sports games."
 

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Grab the Codex by the pussy
Vader is gay. Old news. The rule of two is a master/slave fetish. Add goth aesthetic and the frequent attempted recruitment of young boys. Padme was just a beard. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
 

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Codex Year of the Donut Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Huh, yeah, looks like there is a connection there. Apparently she/he is a idol of Anita. Explains a lot of stuff going on with Dice.
 

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I guess these days I do "have more money than time". But it's precisely because my time is valuable that I'm not interested in wasting any of it playing pay2win bullshit. If your multiplayer game doesn't have a level playing field it has nothing to offer me.
 

Daedalos

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I guess these days I do "have more money than time". But it's precisely because my time is valuable that I'm not interested in wasting any of it playing pay2win bullshit. If your multiplayer game doesn't have a level playing field it has nothing to offer me.

It does have a level playing field, however.

That's were 99 % of people are wrong atm.
 

Cael

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It does have a level playing field, however.

That's were 99 % of people are wrong atm.
So you keep telling us. However, unfortunately for you, none of us believe a single lying word you utter, so EA can go make a loss off the game.
 

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