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[Sam Ecorners]

I don't understand why they don't turn to Elite: dongs-r-us. Yeah it has a lot of issues, but at least it's a real game that actually gets meaningful updates.

 

[Haba]

Because they don't want an actual game. They want an idea of a game. You know, a dream.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

ED is also very focused on kitting and then flying your spaceships (shocking for a sim, yes), and its best feature by far is the flight model and combat. I don't think that appeals much to the "EXPLORE A REAL UNIVERSE" dreamers.

 

[duanth123]

In current year you fund games that will never be made. And then tweet/blog about it.

Get with the program, grandpa!

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Lazing Dirk]

But can you fuck them?

 

[AN4RCHID]

Been playing the Alpha the last few days. It seems somehow more bugged than when I played it a year ago. I can't believe simple things like opening doors and getting in and out of cockpits still doesn't work half the time.

They made some weird changes to the flight model since last time I played. Now you're limited to very low speeds unless you use boost, but the way boost works is kind of janky and doesn't seem consistent.

The newer ship models are fantastic. I jumped on a caterpillar with a couple other guys and manned the turret for a few battles and had fun.

The Star Marine stuff is not great FPS gameplay... but it's not terrible. I like what they're trying to do with the realistic player movement, but it's not quite there yet. Instead of slow-paced tactical gameplay it's just kind of a clusterfuck with everyone charging around at full speed. The guns look and feel good though.

Looking forward to the 3.0 stuff but my expectations are very checked.

 

[Kingston]

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sphli5

SQ42 on console. Blackmailing your backers 101
As soon as news broke about the Lumberyard engine switch, I knew this was going to happen. Which is pretty much why I mentioned it as one of the bullet points my Irreconcilable Differences blog.

http://www.dereksmart.com/2016/12/star-citizen-irreconcilable-differences/

It just makes sense from a financial perspective.

The most hilarious thing is that they won't dare try to put Star Citizen on consoles, like Frontier did with Elite Dangerous because it's an un-optimized mess. Plus backer whales will completely revolt. Remember the "I am a PC game" spiel from 2012? Or how Chris Roberts proclaimed that he was "Going to save PC gaming"? No? Here it is again:

https://youtu.be/w7FUx6JHuMk

But with SQ42, given his recent statements (which you can read below) in the media about using it to fund SC if funding stopped, I think he is basically blackmailing backers now. See, if backers stop putting money into the SC furnace, then Chris will have to use SQ42 to fund it. Just like he said. Hence a console version seeing as most of the people who would have bought SQ42, have already PRE-PAID for it. So the growth path, especially for a space game with a completely disastrous and tarnished rep, is severely limited.

It's a fucking genius plan if you ask me.

http://dereksmart.com/forums/topic/star-citizen-musings/#post-5198

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I suppose I should rephrase "can Dread Pirate Roberts dodge the Smart Missile?" into "Dread Pirate Roberts can't dodge the Smart Missile."

 

[Grotesque]

"Computer Programming Graduates from Japan visiting us in LA"

 

[duanth123]

I'm sure CROBERTS did everything in his power to restrain himself from shackling them to long-vacated workspaces.

 

[Country_Gravy]

How come I got an email saying that it was about a production schedule and there were no dates in it at all? Do they need to look up "schedule" in the dictionary?

It sounds to me like they are going under by the end of the year.

 

[Haba]

Their production schedule was clearly written in the email, here, let me quote the entire thing:

 

[francisbaud]

The complexity and scope of this game is mind-blowing. Invented languages are not something I get excited about but it's cool to know that they're putting much effort in this particular field to make it as coherent/believable as possible. If the rest of the game is built that way it may be a very special title. If it ever releases... =P

 

[Azrael the cat]

This is why we can't have nice things. Sperging about the amazing features of a non-existent game is insane. Look at any interview with a developer about the 'initial scope' of their game. They all start out with sky-high ambitions, and then somewhere along the line, well before the first videos, a superior tells them how badly they'll blow their budget and miss their deadlines, and they scale it back to something they can actually make. This is like taking that initial 'I want to make this, therefore I can' naivety and selling it as a game that's actually been made.

 

[thesheeep]

I don't understand why they don't turn to Elite: dongs-r-us. Yeah it has a lot of issues, but at least it's a real game that actually gets meaningful updates.

I tried playing that.
I gave up after 5 hours of trying to get through the battle tutorial. I admire people who can play this with kb+mouse, but I honestly can't. I was drifting around in space like a drunken cow propelled by its farts.
That was the first game I was unable to play due to an obvious lack of skill on my side, ever.

Pretty sure I would be just fine with a proper joystick set (at least I had no trouble with Freespace back in the day), but I can't be arsed to buy one for just one game...

You know, I'd be happy with just another Freelancer game. I don't need super realistic controls.

 

[Kingston]

Also, there was a new Around the Verse episode which consists of 40 minutes of the one programmer who looks like he's high fantasizing about their non-existent AI. Seriously, they basically say the have no proper AI yet, no tools for designers to make missions... and SQ42 was supposed to be released last year?

 

[Severian Silk]

Is he using a joystick or mouse?

 

[Latelistener]

 

[Country_Gravy]

Is this game out yet?

 

[thesheeep]

I gave up after 5 hours of trying to get through the battle tutorial. I admire people who can play this with kb+mouse, but I honestly can't. I was drifting around in space like a drunken cow propelled by its farts.

Sounds like you may have had "Flight Assist" or whatever the setting is called, switched off. It's near impossible to control your craft without it, but even experienced pilots leave it on 99% of the time, toggling it off in dogfights to pull off a faster turn/yaw than normally possible, then back on to line up the target.

If what this guy says is true, I definitely had it on. At least my inputs like throttle were not accumulative, they were just setting the target the ship would go for.
Still I was unable to even fly straight or turn to face an enemy before being reduced to rubble.
Funny enough, trying to use a controller was even worse
I'm pretty sure there's no way I'll ever play this game if I don't buy some HOTAS style joystick for another game as well.

But the only game I'd do that for is Star Citizen. And that will simply never come out.

 

[Country_Gravy]

The only way that I would pay for this game is if it came with HOTASS.

 

[Darth Slaughter]

The only way that I would pay for this game is if it came with HOTASS.

this:

or this:

Maybe both?

 

[duanth123]

Beyond parody at this point.

They've become a new and used car dealership for non-existent goods.

 

[Grotesque]