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Skyrim is worse than Oblivion in every way

Discussion in 'Stuff that Jaesun thinks is shit' started by baronjohn, Nov 12, 2011.

  1. Monk Scholar

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  2. Wyrmlord Arcane Patron

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    Cosplayers who wear fur coats to represent Skyrim probably played an hour of the game or know of it entirely from YouTube memes and videos.

    Why?

    No sane player would be caught dead wearing hide armour or leather armour or even steel-and-hide armour in this game. Enemies cut through them like butter, and they are about as effective as being naked in Skyrim. You don't get any real use out of armour before 300 armour points and you can be assured of getting killed a little less quickly with 200 armour points. Anything less is a huge waste of gold.

    Seriously cosplayers, at least wear glass armour or steel plate armour or orcish armour to show that you played the game.
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    Steel armor reforged is above 576 cap, lights of the same tier are however much inferior thanks to lack of perks. :lol:
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    Any armour type can be raised into the thousands with enchanted items and alchemy (fortify smithing).

    Also, WTF did I just watch?
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    I didn't listen to a no doubt completely retarded song. But she's hot. And I've seen shittier fantasy costumes. She can kill Gambian children on weekends when she looks like that and I wouldn't care. I'm of course referring to how she loves bananas, which are picked by kids, malnourished kids, and every eaten banana by a westerner costs 11 Gambian kids their lives. Fucking heartless bitch. Violin violining heartless bitch. And some guy with a metrosexual beard waving his dick around. You disgusting negro killers. OH FUCK I HOPE YOU'RE PROUD OF YOURSELVES SKYRIM COSPLAY INFANTMURDERERS.
  6. Wyrmlord Arcane Patron

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    And alchemy and enchanting are among the hardest skills to raise. You may even have to cheat to get them reasonably high within the first 10 hours of the game. Besides, how do you come across the recipe for Fortify Smithing without looking it up on the internet?
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    It doesn't matter if it is above the cap, since 80% damage reduction can not be exceeded.
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    Actually, enchanting & alchemy go up really quickly. You just need soulgems (endless supply in Dwemer ruines) and brew expensive potions (invisibility). Plus, you don't need the recipe, there's an alchemy perk that lets you discover all effects from an ingredient by tasting it. Or you could discover effects by simply experimenting, creating potions with unknown effects.

    An armour rating above 576 is also useful, since blunt weapon users have a perk that negates 50% of your armour rating.
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    Raising enchanting isn't too hard, at least to reach mid-to-high values, alchemy, otoh, requires you to get a lot of ingredients and has many recipies that give only a very marginal skill increase.
    Of course, if you do focus on expensive potions it will raise much faster, but again, you still need a rather large amount of ingredients which cannot just be bought.
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    Enchanting to 90: No problem.

    Enchanting from 90 to 100: Requires more time grinding on that than spending on the actual game.
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    Well, in that case I'd probably throw in a few visits to a trainer.
    But yeah, the whole leveling system could need some adjustments.
    At least they have started with smithing.
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    The whole "use skills to increase them" thing only really works with combat skills which are used constantly and in situations when there's some kind of a danger involved. With non-combat skills you either can max everything in thirty minutes (because the system is balanced around the fact that you rarely need to enchant something or upgrade your equipment or mix two dozen potions of Restore Stamina) or you have to waste hours of your time just to raise a skill to a level where it's somewhat useful. There are some exceptions like the lockpick skill, which requires finding a locked door or chest, and the old repair skill, which indirectly required you to fight people in order to have something to repair, but that's about it. The system was never really that good to begin with.
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    Hold on a second.

    A Master trainer can only train you to 90.

    You have to reach 100 by yourself.
  14. Gord Arbiter

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    Indeed. Had not noticed that before.

    Well, too bad, isn't it?
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    displayed armor rating = (worn armor rating + item quality) * (1 + 0.4 * (skill + skill effect)/100) *
    (1 + Custom Fit or Well Fitted + Matching Set) * (1 + Agile Defender or Juggernaut) +
    (shield armor rating + item quality) * (1 + 0.4 * (skill + skill effect)/100) *
    (1 + Custom Fit or Well Fitted + Matching Set) + armor effects
    hidden armor rating = 25 per piece worn
    damage reduction% = (displayed armor rating + hidden armor rating) * 0.12
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    I dunno. But I'd hit it.
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    They could be playing NPC characters, who get free health/armor scaling with level even when completely naked. The fur is just to keep warm.
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    Based on my time playing, I dislike Skyrim, as it didn't improve much on Oblivion.

    Convo and body language are still retarded. There was very little digging into Norse mythology for this one, just arrow to the knee jokes. They could have used dialogue similar to Conan, or at least a little Tolkien brilliance in the lore department, but Metalocalypse riffed better on Norse mythology than this. :/

    However, that was not my main complaint. I only played to level 22, mind you, then put aside for Dark Souls (again), but my impression was the dungeons unwound in a linear fashion, like a giant colon, rather than allowing open exploration?

    And of course, as usual, world had very little background, just tons of books to compensate for a barely literate plot.

    Sorry mates, I even enjoyed Oblivion. I just felt it could have been VASTLY improved upon, now that they have a new engine and all! Didn't see much progress. "Samey!"
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    Imagine Skyrim with Dark Messiahs of might and magic combat system.

    Yeah we can only imagine :(


    Hopefully Arkane still remembers how to do a good combat and Dishonored will be good, i want to believe.
  21. theHiddenHand Educated

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    Love skyrim and think it is a fantastic game better than oblivion (liked this one as well).
    Ed123 Brofists this.
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    I'd rather not. Dark Messiah's melee combat is vastly overrated, bordering on messy. There are some good Skyrim mods (e.g. Deadly Combat) that rework the way blocking, staggers, stamina and power attacks work, to give a much improved experience. Unfortunately I found them disadvantaging mages and so disabled. The whole thing strikes me as rearranging the deck chairs on the titantic, as a first person game will never, ever, be able to match third-person in modelling action-oriented melee combat.
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    I have just finished the main quest. I'm very, very disappointed. Just for the record, I adored Daggerfall and Morrowind, Oblivion was a slap in the face, and this was... I would say insulting. I really wonder what’s the target IQ for which Bethesda’s writers were aiming for – bellow 50? Although they improved a lot of things from Oblivion, it all doesn’t matter since I just couldn’t look past the bad writing and quest design. I needed to vent my frustration, and as a result I wrote a short review of the things that bothered me. It’s too long to be posted here, but still I would appreciate if you take a look.

    Skyrim: Quest of the Dragonborn by yours truly :)

    BTW, when could we expect the official Codex review?
  25. Syril Scholar

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    Holy shit, you get to shout :lol:

    Todd was watching too many fus ro dah parodies :hearnoevil:











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