Clockwork Knight
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Skyrim is worse than Oblivion in every way
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Clockwork Knight
Arcane
On Dragon Bridge, looking for the X of a treasure map I found. Fall off the bridge, my horse is not a pony and we don't soar away majestically. End up nearly touching the riverbed, right next to the chest. I get off the horse and pick the master locked chest surprisingly filled with good stuff like enchanted armor, jewelry and black soul gems, instead of two cabbages and a torch. Horse begins to whine, a slaughterfish is biting him on the ass. I get back on the saddle and storm away. We've been underwater the entire time, so the game glitches and horse becomes Jesus. Getting close to the margin, we hear the familiar "HALT! HALT! In the name of the emperor, HALT! ". Thinking the chest actually belonged to one of the villagers, I sigh and get ready to skip town until they forget the incident.
The guards rush past me and jump in the river, hellbent on bringing the slaughterfish to justice. Little bugger somehow escapes swimming up the nearby waterfall, and the guards decide to chill in the river for the rest of the day.
The guards rush past me and jump in the river, hellbent on bringing the slaughterfish to justice. Little bugger somehow escapes swimming up the nearby waterfall, and the guards decide to chill in the river for the rest of the day.
DraQ
Arcane
No seriously, fuck the Slaughterfish in Skyrim. Whenever I try to travel somewhere from any point near a big river or the sea I can't because there's an enemy nearby. So I have to use Aura Whisper to find the git who's in my way, then somehow take care of the fish with some kind of ranged attack. It's just a waste of time.
DraQ
Arcane
The movement system in Skyrim is stupidly limited.
You can't attack or cast in water or while airborne, even though you could in previous games, you can't jump from a sprinting start which is beyond retarded, etc.
It's clunky for no obvious reason.
You can't attack or cast in water or while airborne, even though you could in previous games, you can't jump from a sprinting start which is beyond retarded, etc.
It's clunky for no obvious reason.
Most codexers disagree with you, and Oblivion wasn't as fun as skyrim to me.
But here's a question:
Vanilla Skyrim,
or heavily, heavily modded Oblivion?
Clockwork Knight
Arcane
I just cast a cloak spell before diving. Flame cloak spellbook is available from level 1 on a dead mage on the beach between Winterhold and Dawnstar.
(yes, I cover myself in fire to swim. Fuck you I'm a wizard)
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Has Todd told you that it's an engine limitation, yet?
MWaser
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Even though I agree with the first part, at least Oblivion is the middle ground with a few things done better, some things done worse, but at least it has magic that doesn't completely blow dicks. In fact, in terms of combat magic (not overall magic, since Morrowind totally owns in this regard), Oblivion's magic is lots of fun, especially when it allows combinations like 100% magic weakness + 100% fire weakness and then another spell like this for an even stronger effect, which works great with the fast casting speed which only Oblivion (and Daggerfall, but let's not dwell on that) have in the series.
Papa Môlé
Arcane
Oblivion did a better job of pretending to be an RPG, unfortunately that RPG was shit. Skyrim didn't even really bother much to pretend to be an RPG, and instead managed to be a mediocre action game.
RhodokMasterRaceOfficial
Arbiter
You can fix a lot more of Skyrim's problems with mods than you can most of Oblivion's. Oblivion is a decent enough "RPG" at least for the Elder Scrolls franchise, its main problems for me stemmed from how bland the setting was, which is something present in every inch of the game world. You can't really really fix something as major as that with heavy, heavy modding and not end up with a game that isn't even really Oblivion anymore.
RhodokMasterRaceOfficial
Arbiter
trigger warning: vaguely praising Oblivion by saying it was "ok"
Lhynn
Arcane
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It wasnt tho.
RhodokMasterRaceOfficial
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Sure it wasn't.
Papa Môlé
Arcane
Shivering Isles was kinda funny, but only because it was such an unintentional parody of serious mental illness.
Lhynn
Arcane
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It wasnt bro, it was only mildly fun when you modded the shit out of it. vanilla has to be one of the worst games ever made.
RhodokMasterRaceOfficial
Arbiter
If you're trying to fit in on an online forum, sure it is.
Dreaad
Arcane
Is it so hard for you to believe that some people here actively think Oblivion was the final shitstorm that accelerated the decline to new and unheard of dimensions? It really has nothing to do with fitting in.
For example I think that the main storyline in Oblivion and all the guild quest lines were better than their Skyrim counterparts. Doesn't change the fact that Oblivion was terrible trash, with some of the worst mechanics/setting I have ever seen. The full on level scaling and item scaling is enough to push the game into unplayable territory all by itself.
For example I think that the main storyline in Oblivion and all the guild quest lines were better than their Skyrim counterparts. Doesn't change the fact that Oblivion was terrible trash, with some of the worst mechanics/setting I have ever seen. The full on level scaling and item scaling is enough to push the game into unplayable territory all by itself.
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Not to mention that it's easier to beat the game at level 1 than it is at later levels.
RhodokMasterRaceOfficial
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>not mass effect
good joke fam
Lhynn
Arcane
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The content scales to your level making all rpg systems pointless, the plot has you being the assistant of some retard and the world is a copypasted forest full of copypasted dungeons. Can you stop being a try hard retard you stupid cuck and deal with the fact that oblivion is complete and utter shit.
oh Joined: Oct 7, 2015. explains so much.
Skyrim compared to Oblibion
+Land which is varied and looks like home of Nords
+Civil strife and conflict
+ reduced level scaling
+People that don't look like Chernobyl mutants
+improved melee and stealth play
+Horses which are useful this time
+crossbows are back
+Imperials as Romans and not Ren fare cause players.
- more derpy guild lines
- gutted magic
- streamlined attributes and skills
-almost every quest being Epic and Majestic as frack with things like Elder Scrolls reduced to Macgufffins.
+Land which is varied and looks like home of Nords
+Civil strife and conflict
+ reduced level scaling
+People that don't look like Chernobyl mutants
+improved melee and stealth play
+Horses which are useful this time
+crossbows are back
+Imperials as Romans and not Ren fare cause players.
- more derpy guild lines
- gutted magic
- streamlined attributes and skills
-almost every quest being Epic and Majestic as frack with things like Elder Scrolls reduced to Macgufffins.
MWaser
Arbiter
But hey, as opposed to unmodded Skyrim, at least it had a functional UI that didn't make you want to stab yourself in the guts
Who plays unmodded Skyrim?
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