Shadowrun Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut

[Rpgsaurus Rex]

roshan

Why only 13 damage? You can use any weapon to hurt the bugs first form, the spirit gun is only for killing the bugs in spirit form.

I remember being able to kill and 'exorcise' a bug in two consecutive turns.

 

[roshan]

roshan

Why only 13 damage? You can use any weapon to hurt the bugs first form, the spirit gun is only for killing the bugs in spirit form.

I remember being able to kill and 'exorcise' a bug in two consecutive turns.

I meant the spirit form.

 

[naossano]

You shouldn't try to kill all the bugs on the same turn. You should focus on 1-2 bugs for each turn and make sure no one has to reload on the following turn, the one you hit the spirit bug.

This might be improved, but i found these missions wonderfull gameplay wise. It really play with the concept of turn-based combat, in an original way, and impossible to do in real-time.
Someone should probably edit a movie based on footages of Shadowrun (and probably other game) to promote the turn-based combats systems and all the things that could only be done with that system.

PS: Was it officially announced that they dropped the franchise ? Dragonfall Director's Cut was only released a few weeks ago. It seems too early to tell they won't release anything else.

 

[Rpgsaurus Rex]

roshan

Why only 13 damage? You can use any weapon to hurt the bugs first form, the spirit gun is only for killing the bugs in spirit form.

I remember being able to kill and 'exorcise' a bug in two consecutive turns.

I meant the spirit form.

Oh. In that case, don't they take three or so turns to turn back to normal?

 

[supervoid]

Too bad there isn't going to be Shadowrun 2. I still don't understand why they decided to drop this quite successful franchise and make a game about cemeteries or something (already forgot its name).

They haven't dropped anything, they are hiring designers for new Shadowrun campaign. News is here.

 

[roshan]

roshan

Why only 13 damage? You can use any weapon to hurt the bugs first form, the spirit gun is only for killing the bugs in spirit form.

I remember being able to kill and 'exorcise' a bug in two consecutive turns.

I meant the spirit form.

Oh. In that case, don't they take three or so turns to turn back to normal?

No, not in my game. Maybe it's because of the difficulty setting (I think I'm playing on hard or very hard), or because I'm running it in the Director's Cut engine?

 

[naossano]

Nope, it is one turn in normal too.
(by the way, don't complain about difficulty if you pick the hardest each time you launch a game)

- You have to weaken all the bugs, but be carefull of only killing one on same turn, so the other remain hurt, then before killing any of them, make you all the bug guns are loaded.
- Once you have killed one, focus all the bug shooters on that spirit to make sure he dies. The guy without bug gun shouldn't kill any bug in the meantime as you guys must reload their bug guns.
- Then, kill another bug, when all the bug guns are reloaded.
- All of this while making sure that any bug you don't currently want to die don't die, some they remain hurt. If they die and turn spirit when you don't want them to die, they will get all their health back when respawned. But at the same time, hurt them as much as possible so when you need them killed, it won't take much time.

 

[roshan]

Nope, it is one turn in normal too.
(by the way, don't complain about difficulty if you pick the hardest each time you launch a game)

- You have to weaken all the bugs, but be carefull of only killing one on same turn, so the other remain hurt, then before killing any of them, make you all the bug guns are loaded.
- Once you have killed one, focus all the bug shooters on that spirit to make sure he dies. The guy without bug gun shouldn't kill any bug in the meantime as you guys must reload their bug guns.
- Then, kill another bug, when all the bug guns are reloaded.
- All of this while making sure that any bug you don't currently want to die don't die, some they remain hurt. If they die and turn spirit when you don't want them to die, they will get all their health back when respawned. But at the same time, hurt them as much as possible so when you need them killed, it won't take much time.

Yeah, just beat the game and this is exactly what I did. Had to make sure I never killed more than 1 bug per turn, I just reduced the others to red HP. I didn't enjoy playing that way though, It felt very metagamey, because gameplay was no longer about making tactical decisions but exploiting the rules to your advantage.

BTW I was not complaining about "difficulty" but rather repetitiveness/tedium.

 

[naossano]

It could indeed be improved. What i praised is that they exploited the turn-based combat system not only in an unlikely way but also impossible to reproduce in real-time.
This isn't the only time they use it in a clever way, in both campaign, which increase the appeal in replaying them.

About the bugs

Spoiler

Don't worry, this is the only mission that use those bug guns. Those creatures never appear afterward

 

[almondblight]

This is unbelievably shitty gameplay. My characters usually take AP damage against the bugs, so I'm usually left with only 4 shots at them, out of which all four need to hit, because each shot always does only 13 damage with no chance of critical, and the spirit forms happen to have 40 HP, just enough to survive four shots.

Try to get your non-Aegis member to take the AP damage. You should have 6 shots against them.

But yeah, they were annoying. Dragonfall DC combat has been much more fun for me (and a decent challenge on very hard).

 

[Rpgsaurus Rex]

No, not in my game. Maybe it's because of the difficulty setting (I think I'm playing on hard or very hard), or because I'm running it in the Director's Cut engine?

Must be the Director's Cut as I played DMS on very hard as well.

 

[naossano]

No, not in my game. Maybe it's because of the difficulty setting (I think I'm playing on hard or very hard), or because I'm running it in the Director's Cut engine?

Must be the Director's Cut as I played DMS on very hard as well.

One turn on the vanilla version, normal mode.

 

[Rpgsaurus Rex]

No, not in my game. Maybe it's because of the difficulty setting (I think I'm playing on hard or very hard), or because I'm running it in the Director's Cut engine?

Must be the Director's Cut as I played DMS on very hard as well.

One turn on the vanilla version, normal mode.

Weird, I distinctly remember it took more than one turn for them to revive. I am 100% sure.

 

[naossano]

It's time for you to play it again so you memory will be right.

 

[Rpgsaurus Rex]

It's time for you to play it again so you memory will be right.

Nah, once was enough. I'll be replaying Dragonfall this time with DC content at some point soon-ish, though.

 

[Lyric Suite]

You can run DMS on the Director's Cut engine? How?

 

[Shadowfang]

You can run DMS on the Director's Cut engine? How?

Just finished DMS while playing it on Dragonfall Director's cut.
I just had to paste the dead_man_switch folder into the ...\Shadowrun Dragonfall\Dragonfall_Data\StreamingAssets\ContentPacks directory.
Only had an issue in the first fight where two enemies were invisible, but you could still target them easily. Other than it went smooth.

You are welcome.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Any actual advantage in doing that?

Strangely, that folder was already there. It just had a couple of files missing.

 

[Duellist_D]

Well, you would have the new Armor-Mechanics and the flankings System.

 

[Shadowfang]

Any actual advantage in doing that?

You get flanking which makes cover more useful and chi focus gets the 100% crit hit which is nice if you are going the way of the adept. I can't tell if it makes the game harder or easier, either way the combat is more enjoyable.

Edit: Yes, what Duellist_D said.

 

[Infinitron]

Beta Release Notes 2.0.7

Beta Instructions
We have begun public beta testing for the next update. This is COMPLETELY OPTIONAL, but if you'd like to try out the latest and greatest before it's available to the rest of the world, here's how you can participate:

• Go to Steam Library
• Right click on Shadowrun Dragonfall - Directors Cut
• Select Properties
• Select Betas
• Then a drop down says: "Select the beta you would like to opt into"
• Choose: Public Beta

You should see some 'updating' traffic as Steam fetches new files for Shadowrun Dragonfall - Directors Cut.
If you ever want to opt out of the Public Beta and return to the normal public build that everyone else has, you can repeat the process above and choose NONE from the drop down list.

New Features, Improvements

• Trigger: Added new environmental effect, fog to editor.
• Trigger: Added new trigger: Move prop with speed.
• UI: Added hover description to overwatch button.
• UI: Item pickup popup will not trigger for that fail equip requirements.
• Secrets: Several new “modes” have been added.

Well, they released it: http://steamcommunity.com/games/300550/announcements/detail/236768452940099400

 

[iZerw]

Is this the final patch?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Is this the final patch?

Until the next one.

 

[Gord]

Secrets: Several new “modes” have been added.

Hm, wonder what they mean by that...

 

[dryan]

What are "modes" even?