Tacticular Cancer: We'll have your balls

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Incline Shadow Tactics - Blades of Shogun Commandos clone with ninjutsu theme.

Discussion in 'Strategy Gaming' started by Taka-Haradin puolipeikko, Mar 15, 2016.

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    The dark side always lurks nearby...

    I wanna see how the console controls look...
     
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    You are literally retarded.
     
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    Didn't notice that right click works, whatever. It just shows that controls in St are counterintuitive, you're doing everything with left click here (even selecting your character by clicking on a portrait) but for this right click is used.
     
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    There are no horsemen in ST, that would be a 4th enemy type. :cool:
     
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    Or you can use your keyboards 1,2,3,4,5 for shortcuts... like real gamers.

    Why do you want to stab a poor guard with 4 and then shoot him?

    Never had a problem with it, only times I failed were I forgot about shurikens range/ rifle needs set up before fire.

    At least SD don't have that easy mode, waiting behind a corner, massecring whole bandit lairs with gun fire.

    You can stone an ox to kill nearby guards. But there are no horse riders.

    Plays reasonably well with a controller to my suprise, not that I use one.

    :roll: Whatever floats your boat mate. Just know that 3 man patrols with a samurai is deadlier than anything that you can encounter in Desperados. Also there are more than 3 enemy types...




    I honestly don't know why we are having these conversation though. ST is a great game just like Desperados and Commandos, a honest and faithful revival of a dead, niche genre. Lots of nice touches and hidden moments.
    Its only down side is map count imho (13) but maps are quite large and badges create replayabilitt if you like collecting that kind of stuff.
     
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    I wrote that ("click a number").
    Eh, samurais? Why the fuck can only Mugen kill them? If they're so tough than there should be the option to gang on him. In Desperados some characters had weaker attacks (e.g. Kate) and some opponents were more tough so it made sense to attack with a group. Also I'm pretty sure that attacks were spread there which was sensible for a RT game.
    Of course there is, you use shuriken or Mugen's group attack or Yuki's trap and hide far enough so the enemies won't find you, rinse and repeat. It makes the game longer but not harder.
    Noticed it when I've read badges.
    I'm not saying it's not but saying that it's better than Desperados is blasphemy considering it's such a rip-off.
     
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    I wouldn't say it's better, but I also wouldn't say it's worse. It's the same thing to Desperados (and to Commandos) as Desperados was to Commandos - all of these games have vastly different dynamics (and ways to break them), despite sharing the same basic formulas and ideas.

    Also, like I said, you men are drastically neglecting the Z axis use in this game to call it a "rip-off" or whatever the fuck. Prancing between rooftops and other props above guards' heads and crossing half the map like that is much more than just "being a sweet ninja on a rooftop and looking cool". It's something completely different/new that has a YUUUUUUGE influence on level design in this game, and which was simply not present in either Commandos or Desperados.
     
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    Everyone can kill them while they are stunned. They're litteraly high level barbarians who are immune to backstabs :D Easly cordinated with shadow strike once everybody gets
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    Shuirken losts it effectiveness in crowded areas and night missions. Mugen's attack is strong till we get samurais in groups.
    Yuki and her trap is OP though, murdered full forts and villages with her. At least there are enemies that immune to trap and her whistle.


    Well, it's the only rip-off we get over a decade. And it's a really good rip-off.
     
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    Sounds like it could have been a really good game if they set it somewhere other than Japan. Too bad.

    Same goes for "Desperados". Just checked it out; Wild West? Really? It's 2016 people.
     
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    Look bro its good to be critical of a game. Most of your points are valid. But we can all agree that in this day and age of popamole shit that gets released daily, to get a spiritual successor of Commandos/ Desperados, and in such polished state, and fun to play, is a miracle. I mean no one even knew these guys existed until a week ago and they drop this gem on us.
     
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    Somebody said that this is Desperados improved in every way, something like that. That triggered me, because Desperados is still superior in a few very obvious ways. Don't get me wrong, Shadow Tactics is wonderful and I'm extremely grateful for a "real Desperados 2", but you don't talk about the love of my life (Desperados) like she's not beautiful any more and expect me to keep quiet.
     
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    For my part, I did say that ST "kept Commandos' and Desperados' good ideas and improved on them" - the part about "improving on them" was more about the fact that they slightly modernized the interface and the gameplay without dumbing it down, not so much that they drastically improved the gameplay, so maybe that was poorly phrased.

    I too love Desperados to the point that it would definitely make it into my top 5 favorite games - and I of course consider it superior to ST, if only for the incredibly gorgeous 2D backgrounds. I must say though that even though ST's maps are not as pretty as Desperados', I didn't think they could come so close with a 3D engine.
     
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    The benefit though is the freely rotatable camera and that alone is pretty big improvement as well.
     
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    How would you rate this game in relation to Robin Hood: Legend of Sherwood, the only Commandos-like I had played?

    (Or, incidentally, how would you rate them all?)
     
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    They are all great fun honestly and well worth playing. But between them, id rate them:

    Commandos 2 > Desperados = Robin Hood > Commandos 1 = Shadow Tactics > Commandos 3 > Helldorado > Desperados 2. Havent played Star Trek Away Team or the one set during the Korean war.
     
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    I would go Desperados > Commandos 2 > Robin Hood > Shadow Tactics > Commandos BtCoD (I've never played Commandos BeL for some reason).

    Though I prefer Desperados, it must be noted that Commandos 2 is the only one of these games that includes playable interiors for ALL buildings, and that's pretty awesome.

    Robin Hood's main flaw is the very low number of major maps (IIRC there are only 6, while Desperados had around 20 of them), though there are a couple of minor maps that supplement them.
     
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    What game is that?
     
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    Who cares how much it rips off Desperados? I've always wanted another Desperados/Commandos style game, and this came as a surprise. More please.
    Just did the 4th mission on hard (doesn't seem much harder than normal) and I'm liking it so far.
    - I consider Aiko's disguise ability an improvement over Kate.
    - Enemies aren't as funny as the drunkards in Desperados.
    - The ox in the 2nd mission is a hero and managed to kill half the map.
    - Don't really care for the badges, but I'm interested to see if ironmanning individual missions is a viable challenge.
     
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    Korea: Forgotten Conflict

    Haven't played it as the reviews were pretty negative overall.
     
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    I am flabbergasted at the amount of Desperados fanboys around here... Fuggn larpers.

    Should be relatively easy with killing.
     
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    Having a blast with this game. I wasn't expecting such a polished gameplay from an unknown company. My personal GOTY since it's the only game I can't stop playing at 2 AM. Consider me sold for any sequel, expansion or cosmetic DLC.

    I realized I never played Desperados, only Commandos.
    Which Desperados do you suggest? Both? Jump directly to the second?
     
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    NO! Desperados 2 & 3 are bad. Play the first one.
     
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    Pity that first Desperados is unplayable with windows 8 (probably win 10 too).
     
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    There was a Desperados 3 ?!?!?!?
    Oh 2009 release no wonder that I missed it.
     
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    Do you know if it works alright for Windows 7?
     
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