KickStarter Serpent in the Staglands Thread

[Obviousplant]

Shill mode: on
I just posted a review of this game on youtube (well, actually I wrote it almost a week ago, but I couldn't start working on it until yesterday when I got the voice over from my partner in crime), so I hope it might convert some of those who are still on the fence about getting it

The proper review starts at 1:35. Sadly the video quality is horrible at times. There's nothing wrong with the footage I captured but some clips would turn out horrible after being rendered, while most turned out fine. I tried multiple times with the same results.
I wish I could've showcased some things a little better (the spells for one thing) but I lost some of the footage that I captured, and I'm going to be busy tomorrow so I didn't have much time for editing and scanning through hours and hours of videos to find few seconds worth of footage just to demonstrate something.

So yeah be warned the video quality is blurry at times and some of the bugs have already been fixed so the review is partially outdated. And I'm not a fan of showing damage/hit chance in dice rolls, which probably isn't a very popular stance amongst the target audience of this game.

I think I didn't elaborate on this point enough, but to me the lack of meaningful character/party development and min maxing was one of the biggest flaws of this game. OCC and INT for casters, DEX and STR for physical characters, PER for both. To compare it to another modern game, Divinity: Original Sin also had effectively a classless system but you still had meaningful choices to make, at least during lower levels when your warriors didn't have teleport and telekinesis.

It's an awesome game given the development time and resources, if it got a turn based sequel and Whalenought would hire some good writer (and maybe some one to focus on reactivity&systems), the end result could easily be better than any modern RPG (AAA or crowd funded).

 

[Mysterious Stranger]

Spoiler

What the hell is Rheamus Farms for? I found it just by wandering and don't remember finding any obvious quest crumbs.

Spoiler

There is one quest tied to the area. You can sell the spices you get from the critters there to the captain at the barracks in Emerald Metalis Consil.

Thanks for the hint.

 

[Obviousplant]

You can farm Anthramin spice easily by buying the spider summoning horn and killing the spiders over and over again. They never did anything when I tried to summon them to my aid in combat, except they'd say "I'm busy at the moment" if you'd try to talk to them
If I recall correctly, the vendor for the horn is in Corem, it's 600 or 700 emeralds, stack of 10 spice sells for a bit over 500.

 

[Infinitron]

Shill mode: on

Hmmm....

 

[Haba]

If I recall correctly, the vendor for the horn is in Corem, it's 600 or 700 emeralds, stack of 10 spice sells for a bit over 500.

Yeah well, nice and dandy but (almost) all the shop keepers will run out of money with a single stack... I had 5k spare cash without cheesing the game.

 

[ArchAngel]

You can farm Anthramin spice easily by buying the spider summoning horn and killing the spiders over and over again. They never did anything when I tried to summon them to my aid in combat, except they'd say "I'm busy at the moment" if you'd try to talk to them
If I recall correctly, the vendor for the horn is in Corem, it's 600 or 700 emeralds, stack of 10 spice sells for a bit over 500.

You should report both things as bugs.

 

[Obviousplant]

Yeah well, nice and dandy but (almost) all the shop keepers will run out of money with a single stack... I had 5k spare cash without cheesing the game.

Of course, if that wasn't the case you could exploit these things

But you can still use that spice trick to your advantage at early stages of the game when you're buying expensive items. Money becomes quite obsolete by the time you get harvester armors. That's when I bought the spider horn and the imp jar, as I had about 3,5-4k of cash and nothing to spend it on.

 

[agris]

[...]and the worse (still) part is, like many others these days, the game doesn't load when it's minimized! You actually have to have look at the loading screen in order for it to load. What a load of crap. Reminds me of back when I played Arcanum back in the early 2000s and always went to get tea whenever the game was loading a save. I'm at the part where I'm dying to wolves constantly and it takes AGES to reload.

To be fair, blame people who still have < 4 gb of ram. Joe mentioned in some patch notes that they were going to enable the game running when out of focus. It never happened and when I asked him about it, he said they easily could implement it but it kept causing people to get out of memory errors.

There are still people playing on machines with 2 gb of ram for fucks sake!

In v8, the game runs out of focus. I'm writing this while a level loads.

 

[Lerk]

I have this, are the more serious bugs now mostly resolved? i'm itching to dive in.

 

[Zombra]

Wow, huge update released recently I guess. I woke up to find my internet bogged down and then I noticed GOG Galaxy downloading a 3 GB patch. I don't know anything about what it fixes, but way to go Whalenought and glad to see you doing postrelease support.

 

[Ninjerk]

Wow, huge update released recently I guess. I woke up to find my internet bogged down and then I noticed GOG Galaxy downloading a 3 GB patch. I don't know anything about what it fixes, but way to go Whalenought and glad to see you doing postrelease support.

I thought I read that GOG redownloads the entire game every time it patches.

 

[agris]

I think the load times have gotten a lot better. tuluse how about on your end?

 

[tuluse]

I think the load times have gotten a lot better. tuluse how about on your end?

Have not had a chance to try yet (damn those 12 hour work days).

 

[Zombra]

Wow, huge update released recently I guess. I woke up to find my internet bogged down and then I noticed GOG Galaxy downloading a 3 GB patch. I don't know anything about what it fixes, but way to go Whalenought and glad to see you doing postrelease support.

I thought I read that GOG redownloads the entire game every time it patches.

That would explain much. Still, glad to see they're doing patches etc.

 

[Lerk]

Wow, huge update released recently I guess. I woke up to find my internet bogged down and then I noticed GOG Galaxy downloading a 3 GB patch. I don't know anything about what it fixes, but way to go Whalenought and glad to see you doing postrelease support.

3GB is like twice the install footprint?

 

[t]

Actually, it's way worse then that. When you want to install SitS with the Galaxy you need to download 3.5 GB, but if you just want to download the backup installer, it's 266 MB :D (on linux it's the same and it works btw.)

 

[Zombra]

I guess this is why they say Galaxy is in alpha. Oh well, it's not like my ISP charges by the byte

 

[Johannes]

If I recall correctly, the vendor for the horn is in Corem, it's 600 or 700 emeralds, stack of 10 spice sells for a bit over 500.

Yeah well, nice and dandy but (almost) all the shop keepers will run out of money with a single stack... I had 5k spare cash without cheesing the game.

I didn't really have excess cash until hacking through the logging camp. Before that there'd be some interesting stuff to buy (wands, armor, whatever else I'm now forgetting) in turn that'd give the merchants a reasonable amount of cash to buy your shit. At the same point I also got a ridiculous amount of XP, that I didn't even really know what to use the level gains into, since I was steamrolling everything already. I guess I should try the newest patches as it seems they've hardened and balanced the endgame since.


Btw, is there Thieving Imps for sale anywhere besides a single one in Corem?

 

[agris]

Btw, is there Thieving Imps for sale anywhere besides a single one in Corem?

Did you know that

Spoiler

you can get a thieving imp at the start of the game from Vinimus? The PC needs a point in philosophy I believe.

 

[Johannes]

Yeah, I got that one. For a total of two found during the entirety of my game so far.

 

[agris]

So the imps differ in personality and abilities?

 

[Ninjerk]

Btw, is there Thieving Imps for sale anywhere besides a single one in Corem?

Did you know that

Spoiler

you can get a thieving imp at the start of the game from Vinimus? The PC needs a point in philosophy I believe.

This fucking game

 

[Johannes]

So the imps differ in personality and abilities?

No, not to my knowledge, how'd you infer that?

 

[agris]

So the imps differ in personality and abilities?

No, not to my knowledge, how'd you infer that?

Oh, I'm just wondering why you would want multiple Imps. Different abilities seemed a natural reason.

 

[Johannes]

They're single-use items.