TBS Sengoku Jidai: Shadow of the Shogun

[oscar]

Looks like this has been out for two days now. Any impressions or thoughts?

I'm particularly interested in that it seems to have a full campaign devoted to the Imjin War what has been a massive missed opportunity from other games set in the period while I quite enjoyed Pike & Shot. Looks like the DLC also covers a Mongol and Jurchen campaign.

 

[Burning Bridges]

Tbh I still haven't understood how this is required when you can play Shogun Total War.
The campaign looks shallow and the battles may be ok but no more.

 

[oscar]

Bought it and enjoying it so far though I liked P&S quite a lot, but yeah if you don't like the engine your not gonna like this one either.

 

[Endlösung]

Its not the engine that makes someone not like PnS. Engine is from Battle Academy.
Its the mechanics. I could not stand how routing units work, how they are followed, how they recover, how they come back to the battlefield. Horrible.

edit

Maybe I am wrong.
How long do units rout? How long do my units follow them? Can I somehow cancel the following? If they leave the map, how long till they come back and do they always?

 

[Agesilaus]

I don't care about Japan. Point of this game is to play as Ming and Qing China.

I'll play it when I get back to the States.

 

[Agesilaus]

I've been playing it a bit and I like it more than Pike & Shot. I never really got into P&S, as the style of warfare in Europe during that period never interested me, but I do enjoy this better. Just wish there were more scenarios involving China; right now you have 1 scenario for Yuan, 1 for Ming, and 1 for Qing. Only Ming really interests me, but that scenario is as a backup force to the Koreans which is a bit lame, but it's still a lot of fun.

My main complaint right now is the time it takes to resolve a turn (watching all the gunfire etc), and the graphics are a bit too zoomed out. Going to play with the settings to speed it up a little, but I think the graphics are set in stone. I remember in P&S I could change the zoom rate, but it looks like dogshit up close.

 

[Sranchammer]

Pike and Shot is better

 

[Agesilaus]

Pike and Shot is better

Assuming equal interest in both time periods and locations, this is almost certainly correct. This new game adds a few new features, though, like generals, which maybe puts it ahead.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

http://steamcommunity.com/app/377520/discussions/0/365163686062322341/

Zarkarion [developer]
The elephant rules are fully developed in the code, with a view to scenarios in India etc., but there is as yet no elephant unit model.

We do plan to add elephants in a DLC to Sengoku Jidai: Shadow of the Shogun - for Burmese, Thai etc. armies. When that is done, the model can be ported across to Pike and Shot.

e. Are commanders improvement to the game play or just a gimmick?
I will probably buy this when finished product is bundled like Pike & Shot was bundled with From Tercio to Salvo.

 

[Agesilaus]

Expansion released: Gempei Kassen
12th century Japan.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/502360/?snr=1_5_1100__1100

Next expansion announced: Mandate of Heaven
16th - 17th century China.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/502361/?snr=1_5_1100__1100