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Editorial RPG Codex Report: A Codexian Visit to inXile Entertainment

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by Infinitron, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. Matt with a full stop at the endgender: ⚧ Arcane Patron

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    This could be the best interview I've read on the 'dex. Bravo!

    Deserved credit to inXile too. They didn't need to do this.
     
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    I also fully agree with that they said about the shift in tone at the Codex. This placed is becoming filled with retards, and all Kickstarter related topics are especially bad.
     
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    Pretty great interview. For all the talk of Fargo being an oil snake salesman (justified I might add. Not communicating all the cuts to the backers when they were one month away from release is a fucking questionable move even if I were to believe it was just incompetence as they say. Considering their update regarding the cuts didn't even cover all of them, they will need more to convince me that they weren't keeping things quiet intentionally), he comes off very sincere in his answers, even when trying to diminish their screw ups. McComb though just comes across as deeply butthurt, which I can understand, but man, he sounds way too defensive to the point where he seems to be incapable of processing negative feedback of his game.

    I would have liked some more follow up questions (the voice acting specially, as they didn't really answer the question, but I get that there are time constraints and is not good to linger on one question too much), and all the background art stuff that Prime Junta posted in the questions thread I think should have been there in some abridged version, but all in all, fantastic interview, with much better responses than what I thought the Codex would get.
     
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    Glad the question about extended preproduction got asked, interesting response considering Fargo's views on it in the original pitch video. The 'one person a month' response when talking about ramping into production and moving people over from WL2DC also raises a few questions. Wonder if Kevin feels he actually had 2 years of production on the project before leaving. Question for a Matt Chat in 10 years or so.
     
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    I completely agree with you.

     
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    Yeah, McComb is extremely butthurt.
    I feel like he always envied MCA for PST and wanted this to be his masterpiece, but it just didn't turn out. Hey, not everyone has it in them.

    But at least butthurt means he cares about his work which is a bonus point, I guess. Would be great if he got out of the denial phase at some point, though.
     
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    Don't dis ChopLifter, it's pretty cool mang.
     
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    Yeah, their best game for sure.
     
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    I really enjoyed the writing 'around' the interview parts and of course the interview itself. Thank you!

    Now, when you read a proper, extensive interview as this one, you can see they are reasonable guys. I see little reason for the nonsense that seems to be filling the KS threads on the Codex lately.

    It should've been obvious that just receiving some money from KS by no means guarantees a sure-fire hit, a new timeless classic, or even a successful game, from any studio. I'm not sure there are 100% infallible managers out there. These guys at least seem to notice the mistakes and attempt to do something about them.

    Having said that, I'm done with backing their KickStarters or whatever the scheme they come up with -- but not with buying their games after release!
     
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    Seems like a rather genuine interview to me.

    Don't really understand why the author wants to remain hidden, but hey. Let us spread the brofists evenly among ourselves.
     
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    This...simply isn't true. Torment didn't really start production until then end of 2014 at the earliest, and much more likely later (they were still hiring people in early 2015, and Fargo mentions in the interview that they didn't bring in some people until after WLDC came out - at the end of 2015). Would have been nice to have had some firm numbers for when the team was what size, but the interviewer kind of dropped the ball there (and still not clear when InXile moved from a 1.5 person team to a 2.5 person team).

    Anyway, good to have confirmation that Saunders was let go because Fargo wanted to rush the game out rather than because of quality issues; seems to suggest this theory was correct:

    Also nice to have Fargo's confirmation that the extended pre-production period was a waste. Not sure how accurate Fargo's "It wouldn't come out until 2018 if we do this" line is; it's quite possible that he initially said "It wouldn't come out until 2017 if we do this." When Keenan came on, he said his main goal was to get the game out in 2016. Of course, if Fargo said "I fired Saunders and cut content because I didn't want to have the game delayed until 2017" now, it'd probably look a bit foolish.

    Also kind of funny how predicable their answer about the cut stretch goals was.

    As for this:

    Yeeeeah....no. You don't sign a contract with a publisher saying that you're going to include multiplayer, then release the game without multiplayer, say, "Hey, we thought it was for the best!" and have the publisher say "All good, no problem man." I mean, hell, in all of the "Kickstarter is awesome!" vids Fargo did, he specifically talked about how it was great that he didn't need a publisher because publishers would force them to do things that they didn't want them to do. Now publishers are often because they don't? Yeah...

    Also kind of bullshit to say the Codex was asking for walls of text. A few people were, others were saying that that was fucking stupid.

    Anyway, nice of InXile to let the Codex talk to their PR manager. I laughed at the way he was trying to win the Codex over with "You guys really are tier 1!" bullshit - they can't possibly think such a stupid ploy would work, can they? But looking at some of the responses here it seems it did, so hats off to them.
     
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    Ouch...
     
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    Has Chris Avellone really regressed to the mentality of a teenager, or am I reading too much into this?
     
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    I agree the 'tier 1' thing was ridiculous. Kinda desperate. What do they think they'd gain from it? If they're in deep financial trouble, then surely this is not the way to go ;)
     
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    Do you see an implication in his statement that I don't?
     
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    You bend it as needed. It's not without reason that he's got a snakeoil salesman reputation around here.

    lul, why didn't BN show up there too? Apparently they don't know who did it... it was "someone".
     
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    Taking a bit shit all over Obsidian, from what I see.
     
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    I didn't read Avellone's tweet as anti-Obsidian.

    O rly. Find me anti-wall of text posts on the Codex from before PoE's release.
     
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    But Obsidian have been really open in their interviews and when interacting with the community? Might be talking Feargus specifically, but I don't think applies to him either.
     
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    Avellone has been having diarrhea for quite a while now so nothing new there.

    Also... nice in-depth interview that is likely to bloat the ego of the Codex even more.

    :kingcomrade:
     
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    It just reads as toy-throwing rather than as a legitimate complaint about the community interactions of his former company.
     
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    Now, I'm speaking only for myself, but I don't have a problem with walls of text. FFS, I play text adventures. Those are literally walls of text.
    I do have a problem with walls of shitty text, though. Bad writing is much more forgivable if you can go through it fast.

    And it's still unclear why big parts of the junk-tier writing in this game weren't simply fucking cut out.

    So... right.. back to your post... find me posts against walls of text of good quality?
     
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    The ship is sinking, they have no choice but to admit it and move on. Snake oil salesmen can show professionalism you know? professionalism in this case would be to do damage control with the community.
    He is totally a sham, but he knows how to act like one.

    They don't want to completely cut their bridges with the gaming community no matter how harsh our comments can be because they don't want to become like DoubleBear with no one to sell games to.

    I mean, this is what DoubleBear is making these days :

    From Dead State to this. Eh.

    This isn't Fargo being a nice human being. This is Fargo understanding that InXile could just end up like DoubleBear if they handled the fiasco the same way.
     
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