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RPG Codex Interview: Chris Avellone on Pillars Cut Content, Game Development Hierarchies and More

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by Infinitron, Apr 30, 2018.

  1. Maculo Liturgist

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    My god man, how many do you have?
     
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  2. Kem0sabe Arcane

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    Chris Avellone Do you mind sharing your outlook on how well do you think Deadfire will turn out? Taking into consideration your knowledge of the team working on it and what you think they learned from how PoE ended up.
     
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  3. 2house2fly Liturgist

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    Maybe them not having a lot of weight is why. Not enough people care about Obsidian for it to be much of a story m
     
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  4. Chris Avellone Arcane Developer

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    It is true, I will never get work again. What will I do? (I resisted adding a dramatic gasp to this, but I might do so in an edit.)

    Unrelated (kidding but serious), I am happy to say I've been employed as a writer for Ghost Story Games (formerly Irrational) ever since my departure from Obsidian, and Ghost Story is great and their lore is amazing. Plus, their designers are smart (yes, Drew, I mean you) and I like what Ken Levine brings to characters very, very much.

    I will expound later, after I desperately try and sift through my meager options, which don't include 10+ other companies doing exciting narrative shit - and not all of them in the States, thank god, because... well, U.S. games have a very safe feel to them.

    The short of it is that none of the dozens of companies who reached out to me has ever cared overmuch about Obsidian and any troubles, because, well, it's Obsidian - most companies have bigger concerns to worry about.

    Obsidian can keep doing whatever it is they do best. I wasn't sure what that was before my departure. I'm still not sure, beyond "I think it's a BG thing"... but there's often no mention of BioWare and their design principles when this is said. I will say Black Isle (Studios) would never have survived without what BioWare licensed to them (the Infinity Engine).

    My take? I wish the developers well, but upper management? Get your shit together because the future is uncertain if you can't even develop and rely on your own tech.
     
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  5. Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss Magister Patron

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    It's a little hard to notice his talent if that's the thing that created problems to begin with. You can also be certain that they never dreamed that he would speak about any of it in public. They thought that they would do anything they wanted behind doors, while using his name in the process, and still get away with it.
     
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  6. Chris Avellone Arcane Developer

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    I am not the lead writer, I report to the very professional Alexander Komzolov, who has the narrative well in hand.

    I'm happy to give you breakdowns of how much I've written/rescripted for the game once I get confirmation on some points.
     
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  7. Zed Codex Staff Patron

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    Unity is bullcrap but they seem to have shaped into a pretty decent thing with PoE2? It's not wholly self-proprietary of course but it's not like they run a risk of losing the platform because some publisher is feeling grumpy.
     
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  8. Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss Magister Patron

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    But you need to hear the other side of the story. I'm sure they have a perfectly good explanation about that too, right? Let's not jump to conclusions. Maybe Avellone's IP adress was the problem. Let's be reasonable about this. LOL
     
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  9. 2house2fly Liturgist

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    He hasn't objected to multiple people trying to get in touch with the big gaming sites about this, so you can probably knock yourself out
     
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    Could you maybe tell us a bit what you'd percieve as the main difference between working for Obsidian, inXile and Larian? In terms of organisation and work practice but also general corporate culture?
     
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  11. Chris Avellone Arcane Developer

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    I believe he contributed a great deal to what made God of War great, and I felt the game was amazing for it.

    I also believe that his lead programmer also had some very good points about how to manage design.
     
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  12. you know what time it is Arcane

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    Speaking of which, how did the whole Pathfinder thing came to be? And how different it is to work with folks/studios from other countries?
     
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  13. Israfael Arcane

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    At the times of the "Brother-None-gate" I thought Obsidian was different to Fargo and friends, it seems not so much... My eternal appreciation to Chris, I hope you persevere, shame it ended this way.
     
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  14. Maculo Liturgist

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    I may not get an answer to all my questions (i.e., Sawyer), but this thread did shed some light on the matter.

    For what little it is worth, thanks Chris Avellone. I hope Ghost Story Games proves to be a good fit.

    Now, I need to reinstall PST.
     
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  15. Chris Avellone Arcane Developer

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    I have no idea, but based on Obsidian's track record, I wouldn't buy any game from them until the first expansion/DLC came out.

    Not trying to be a dick, but it's true - they don't have a great track record of launching a title. I prefer to give it a few months (which also lets me hear how good the story is).
     
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  16. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    They are according to Chris :shittydog:
     
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  17. Phanax Novice Patron

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    So, got any more juicy gossip to share? Clearly you're not worried about burning bridges so let it all out. It's therapeutic!
     
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  18. aratuk Savant

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    Yes!! I think you + Ken Levine could do something very cool, even if (heresy!) it might not be an RPG…

    One thing about the saga in this thread that I don't understand is how the other owners at Obsidian managed not to buy you out of your share(s) when you left, or do they still owe you?
     
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    To be fair, thats true for virtually every RPGs these days. Better wait a few months, in fact, wait a few years until the special extented directors cut complete edition comes out.
     
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  20. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Sorry, I had deleted the post. But yes, #1 Dad.
     
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  21. Chris Avellone Arcane Developer

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    I concur with this.
     
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  22. Maculo Liturgist

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    Lol, I deleted my post as well, it looked awkward without context.
     
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  23. Phanax Novice Patron

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    Or indeed, a restoration mod. *cough* *cough*
     
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  24. 2house2fly Liturgist

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    I had been under the impression he wasn't involved in God Of War 2, which I liked a lot more, and thought "good riddance" but then I looked it up recently and turns out he was involved after all. So, good not riddance
     
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  25. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Man, reading about the NDA/non-compete screwjob makes my blood boil. Even trying that sort of thing should be illegal. Reminds me of why my grandfather used to say that one of the two things communists got right was hanging all the lawyers.

    Chris Avellone related to your wonderful Tony Jay anecdote, and the well-known saga of Ron Perlman's quest for your blood, when South Park was being worked on did Matt and Trey ever drop by Obsidian?

    Human sacrifice! Mass hysteria!

    It gives a man hope against hope for Freedom Force 3.
     
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