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Company News Report: BioWare Montreal scaled down, Mass Effect series on hiatus

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by Infinitron, May 12, 2017.

  1. Make America Great Again vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    My bad. In retrospective, the TW path from characters, (linear) story and C&C in arenas (TW), to arenas which really looked great (TW2) to these "core components" in an open world would have been the path BW could have taken, but I think they lacked the ambition (and vision) which the CDP leadership clearly had. And without this, the chances to form a team capable of succeeding seem to dwindle.
     
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  2. Make America Great Again cvv Arcane Patron

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    The decline in the writing and design quality between previous Bioware games and DAI/MEA is abysmal. If they kept the original ME quality up they could've easily go on.

    Btw ME3 wasn't a commercial flop, it was probably the most successful BW game. It grossed 200 million just in the first six months. With lifetime sales up until now plus the income from the multiplayer which apparently was a stunning success it can easily be twice as much. This was an IP very, very far from commercial mass grave.

    Well, it's there now.
     
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  3. Wonderdog Neckbeard Shitlord's alt

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    People just buy series off the last game or two. ME 3 was still a decline, but it was 4 that rang the death knell. They should not even have bothered with androgeny. Yet they put a decent budget into it and got absolute crap and probably killed the series for good.
     
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  4. Wayward Son Fails to keep valuable team members alive

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    ?? This was 4.
     
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  5. MRY Prestigious Gentleman Wormwood Studios Developer

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    I've heard that Mac Walters will have to travel to Edmonton and Austin to call upon all the old allies in hopes of defeating EA. But will they honor the treaties?
     
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  6. Aenra The Invisible Empire Patron

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    Correct me if i'm wrong, but i cannot lay blame on EA for any of this.
    I cannot blame a shark for being a shark, that's its nature. I can blame the moron that contrary to common wisdom and self-preservation decides to get in bed with it; aka Greed. Bioware chose this path, not EA.
    I cannot blame EA for how this ends, it's what you do when a series/franchise is no longer milkable, performing according to expectations, or deemed impossible to 'fix'; you can it. There's no "passion" and "ideals" at play here, this is EA; this too they knew, before they went to bed with them; aka Greed.
    And i cannot blame them for lack of potential, as that was solely Bioware's department; they were the ones designing the damn things; all important milestones having occured in between are solely Bioware's doing.

    As to the usual evil EA talk? We're talking shit code here, we're talking shit implementation. This is on a pure technical level. Whatever hand EA had in design philosophy has had nothing to do with how abysmally bad the actual programming was. I saw that again and again, with the pinnacle being SWTOR. I was actually laughing when i first logged in, launch day. You just couldn't believe a studio that big and "accomplished" would be so.. incompetent really, that was the feeling.
    Now this game, being even worse.

    EA does money, not games. EA can lure you in, sure, but it cannot force you.
    Lastly, because it's tempting to say good fucking riddance, lol.. don't. I'd rather Bioware remained on the same track. If this keeps on, those morans will soon be working for other studios, further fucking up the market. Better if they remained there all together, working on the next Prospermeda. At least the shit would be piled rather than spread out. This isn't good news, this isn't funny news.
     
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  7. Wonderdog Neckbeard Shitlord's alt

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    Says the guy who constantly has his feathers ruffled.
     
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  8. Wonderdog Neckbeard Shitlord's alt

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    They had a comparable number of people working on this game as the witcher 3 and in a comparable timeframe. SJWs are incompetents who want something for nothing. Film at 11.

    Personally I won't be happy til gaider is a homeless rentboy and dying of aids, but this is a good start.
     
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  9. Make America Great Again Irenaeus Self-Ejected Patron Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual The Real Fanboy

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  10. Make America Great Again Irenaeus Self-Ejected Patron Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual The Real Fanboy

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    You sound upset, Jew.
     
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  11. I'm With Her Mustawd for prison Shitty Team Member, ditch at first opportunity Douchebag! Illiterate Sychophantic Noob Village Idiot Weasel Repressed Homosexual Possibly Retarded Trigger Warning Edgy No Fun Allowed Shitposter Cuck Manlet

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    Where will the biodrone sjw retards go now? Obsidian? Bethesda?
     
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  12. lukaszek Magister

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  13. Wonderdog Neckbeard Shitlord's alt

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    Seriously dude, read the post how fucking hard is it?! :lol:
     
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  14. Des Educated

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    Bioware died years ago. Just because the name is still in use by EA doesnt mean its the same company. It should be called EA pseudo-rpg division.

    This EA division doesnt even deserve any discussion about it here.
     
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  15. Wayward Son Fails to keep valuable team members alive

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    Took me a minute. I was tired and misunderstood the post.
     
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  16. Make America Great Again Irenaeus Self-Ejected Patron Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual The Real Fanboy

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    So many words for so many shit games.
     
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    Surely someone has already made a dragon's teeth:husk::EA:Bioware meme?
     
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  18. Dicksmoker Arcane

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    DU should put a freeze on new memberships.
     
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  19. TheSentinel Arbiter

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    Judging by the PoE2 campaign, they're already flocking to Obsidian.

    Makes me wonder if EA would buy Obsidian when they inevitably kill off BioWare.
     
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  20. oneliner Educated

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    It is impossible to write a good story/make good animation if the writer/animator lack talent, which is the case with most SJW
     
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  21. Iznaliu Learned

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    That will just lead to accounts being taken over. It will be like Alien; unimaginable horror.
     
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  22. KyivAfter12am Learned

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    Identifying with a political movement has nothing to do with having or not having talent, and on the other hand neither does the ability to write a good story. E.g. Sapkowski has views that are quite similar to SJW, but his stories are quite popular, and not only with feminists and gay rights supporters.
     
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  23. Morality Games Arcane Patron

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    Larian. They had them at necrophilia.

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    In seriousness, Bethesda.
     
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  24. Wonderdog Neckbeard Shitlord's alt

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    What about a political movement with a stated main purpose to stack every job with people with the 'right' politics. Why it's almost like it's a way for incompetents to band together and drain the rest of society or something.
     
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  25. Morality Games Arcane Patron

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    I doubt SJW culture was the primary reason for Andromeda's failure (low production values and a dumb open world did that). However, SJW culture at Bioware did make them forget the fundamentals of entertainment in a way that even fully committed Hollywood SJWs like J.J. Abrams would never consider doing: sex sells, and everyone wants to be hot and have sex with hot people.

    Even Gaider 100% knew that.

    The goal is to take this kind of shallow wish fulfillment and turn it into a meaningful setting/story like the Witcher 3. The Andromeda team decided to grab the bull by the horns and attack the player's desire for wish fulfillment head on.

    That sort of edgy artistic decision has little utility in a medium that is primarily rooted in entertaining people. Obviously, everyone wants to be an artist and challenge peoples' assumptions, but if you're working in the entertainment industry you need to be subtle about it.
     
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