Torment Planescape: Torment has bad writing

[Strange Fellow]

Didn't Rothfuss work on Numenera? I doubt he'd do that if he didn't like the original.

 

[Safav Hamon]

Didn't Rothfuss work on Numenera?

Apparently he was a stretch goal. I didn't know that.

Yes, I am going to tell you otherwise. How do you know this?

Look at their work and then look at Planescape. The difference in quality is staggering.

To even compare Planescape with any of their works would be an insult.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Didn't Rothfuss work on Numenera?

Apparently he did.

Look at their work and then look at Planescape.

Yes, do that.

 

[Lacrymas]

If this was a serious discussion, I'd have said Tolkien would've liked PS:T because it aligns a lot with his aesthetic and literary goals. Not in a mythopoeic sense because it didn't create the setting, but with the applicability and universality of its themes.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

I was speaking about all fictional literature in general, but if Tolkien, Erickson, Sanderson, Rothhuss, or Hobbs played Planescape they would say it has bad writing.

Rothfuss absolutely loves Planescape you god damn donkey.

 

[Darth Roxor]

STOP! posting already you idiots

 

[Safav Hamon]

He was young. He didn't understand what good writing was at the time.

Seriously though, compare his work with Planescape. No flowery prose, no psuedo-intellectual bullshit, and his writing doesn't look like he was hovering over a thesaurus the whole time. In other words - not shit.

 

[fantadomat]

I do actually read fantasy novels every once in awhile. Always start with the best.

Hahahaha clearly not,you just copy pasted the most famous,hardly the best one. Taste in fantasy books or in any books is very subjective,a real person that likes reading will not just splash all the famous authors and call them the best. A real person will say that he likes most of them,loves a few of them and can't stand X while saying that he really likes some more niche author. I doubt that you have even read any of those authors you little slimy pile of shit!

 

[Safav Hamon]

I'm not going to list obscure authors to make a point. Everyone of those writers is on another level than the shit in Planescape though.

 

[fantadomat]

STOP! posting already you idiots

Then give us the review so we could have something to talk about!


Also i must point out that the mods are not doing their fucking job,that retard doesn't even have a single tag,shame!

 

[BING XI LAO]

I'm not going to list obscure authors to make a point. Everyone of those writers is on another level than the shit in Planescape though.

GTFO before you get lynched by the Kodex Kool Klub you l1brul nigg3r!!!!

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Infinitron time to work your thread splitting magic.

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

Safav Hamon I was trying to stay neutral during your arguing about writing, but after you said that PST had bad story and writing...I hope that you troll people, because if it's isn't trolling...Well I guess my condolences to you, with such taste in writing any game cannot bring the joy to you and your existence is suffering. Jesus Christ what a shitty day, saw today some idiot who compared Fallout 3 with 1-2 and said that 1-2 was worse. And now THIS bullshit about PST having bad story.

Spoiler

How about you stop talking about shit you don't know about??? Go emigrate to germany and enjoy the high life of a toilet cleaner!

I living in Eastern Europe and I perfectly know how governments brainwash people to believe that they living in wonderland. So how about you shut up with your propaganda and stop sending people in Germany just because that you childishly refuse to acknowledge problems of region? It's will be better for everyone.

What Eastern European country are you from? Bulgaria is literally the worst economically from all of them.

Russia,I know many brainwashed cunts told to you that this country is a living wonderland, but in reality situation so bad that many people trying to emigrate at any cost (Mexican emigrants are fucking amateurs in comparison). I can feel like thousands retards coming to defend this shithole, because according media owned by government it's good country and I should refuse to believe my eyes and listen only to their lies.

 

[Safav Hamon]

I'll make one final post for now. Planescape sold poorly at release because the writing style was bad and the gameplay sucked. A few uncultured hipster nerds started declaring it a masterpiece a decade later, and now it has an overhyped legacy that doesn't match up to reality.

The realty is, if Planescape came out today the same people in this thread defending it would be calling it shit. They would accuse it of being amateur, pretentious, and boring. Don't act like it isn't true either.

 

[Darth Roxor]

STOP! posting already you idiots

Then give us the review so we could have something to talk about!

 

[J_C]

Why play a crappy visual novel, when you could read a much better fantasy series instead?

Because I want to experience the story of PST?

You will find thousands of novels with better writing and no shitty combat sprinkled in. I'd argue the same for games too, because Planescape's superfluous pretentious writing is on the lower end of the spectrum.

Maybe you didn't understand what I said. I want to experience the story of Planescape Torment. Not another fantasy story, but the story of PST. Also, playing a game always enhances the experience of a story, that is one of the big adventage of the medium. Even a mediocre story can feel like a great experience, because through playing, you get invested in the characters and the story bits.

 

[Roguey]

Seriously though, compare his work with Planescape. No flowery prose, no psuedo-intellectual bullshit, and his writing doesn't look like he was hovering over a thesaurus the whole time. In other words - not shit.

I exploded, my voice a roll of thunder.

 

[Lacrymas]

Nah, don't engage him anymore, we've thoroughly disproved all the points he makes and he defaults to his usual trolling.

Rinslin Merwind, Russia isn't in Eastern Europe.

 

[Safav Hamon]

. Also, playing a game always enhances the experience of a story, that is one of the big adventage of the medium. Even a mediocre story can feel like a great experience, because through playing, you get invested in the characters and the story bits.

Okay, I'll make one other post. I agree with you, J_C

A mediocre story can be elevated through the medium of the game. What makes Planescape so terrible is that it tries to be more of a visual novel/JRPG than a game, but its amateurish writing isn't good enough to hold it together.

 

[Safav Hamon]

Nah, don't engage him anymore, we've thoroughly disproved all the points he makes and he defaults to his usual trolling.

You haven't disproven any of my points. What you guys have done is autistically screech at me to stop posting, because you don't like to hear what I'm saying. Most likely because you know it's true.

 

[Darth Roxor]

I'll make one final post for now.

"final for now" being less than 10 minutes is pretty impressive

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

I'll make one final post for now. Planescape sold poorly at release because the writing style was bad and the gameplay sucked. A few uncultured hipster nerds started declaring it a masterpiece a decade later, and now it has an overhyped legacy that doesn't match up to reality.

The realty is, if Planescape came out today the same people in this thread defending it would be calling it shit. They would accuse it of being amateur, pretentious, and boring. Don't act like it isn't true either.

Ok, now I see you are really trolling people, I can hear anal explosion from half population of Codexers.

Maybe you didn't understand what I said. I want to experience the story of Planescape Torment. Not another fantasy story, but the story of PST. Also, playing a game always enhances the experience of a story, that is one of the big adventage of the medium. Even a mediocre story can feel like a great experience, because through playing, you get invested in the characters and the story bits.

Agreed, I think Safav just trolling, don't mind him. I really like story in PST, it's really different from many games and this makes it more attractive.

 

[Safav Hamon]

I'll make one final post for now. Planescape sold poorly at release because the writing style was bad and the gameplay sucked. A few uncultured hipster nerds started declaring it a masterpiece a decade later, and now it has an overhyped legacy that doesn't match up to reality.

The realty is, if Planescape came out today the same people in this thread defending it would be calling it shit. They would accuse it of being amateur, pretentious, and boring. Don't act like it isn't true either.

Okay, I'll make one other post. I agree with you, J_C

A mediocre story can be elevated through the medium of a game. What makes Planescape so terrible is that it tries to be more of a visual novel/JRPG than a game, but its amateurish writing isn't good enough to hold it together.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

He was young. He didn't understand what good writing was at the time.

Rhotfuss is in his late 40s pal, he was probably older when he played Planescape than you are now. Quit talking out of your ass. Whatever legitimate argument you might have had, you've destroyed it yourself by being a thick fuckstick.

 

[Lacrymas]

You haven't disproven any of my points. What you guys have done is autistically screech at me to stop posting, because you don't like to hear what I'm saying. Most likely because you know it's true.

Oh, quite the contrary, we have annihilated anything you have said thus far. To the point of you digging yourself deeper with every post because you actually have no idea what you are talking about; have the nerve to claim to speak for authors whose aesthetic goals you know nothing about and can be proven wrong straight from the horse's mouth; and the history of video games and game critique being entirely contrary to what you say. And even then, you have made no coherent points at all. I do like a contrarian opinion, but not when it's demonstrably stupid and pointless.