Eternity Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Pre-Release Thread [BETA RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[santino27]

How we'll find out if they will reach the highest stretch goals post campaign?

They've said they'll try to add some sort of counter somewhere... maybe to the backer site... which includes paypal funds.

 

[Once more unto the Codex]

I been playing battle bros a lot and I been thinking between it and sir techs jagged alliance and wizardry 8. Wouldn't it be cool if pillars had some sort of morale/resolve system. Certain companions fight better slightly as group

There were a couple of talents and auras in PoE1 IIRC that created effects similar to this. Actually, all of the auras created variations of this.

 

[Sizzle]

I been playing battle bros a lot and I been thinking between it and sir techs jagged alliance and wizardry 8. Wouldn't it be cool if pillars had some sort of morale/resolve system. Certain companions fight better slightly as group

There were a couple of talents and auras in PoE1 IIRC that created effects similar to this. Actually, all of the auras created variations of this.

The paladin is built around that - powerful support abilities for both groups (auras) and individuals (exhortations).

But it isn't really a morale system, it's just a bonus to attack/defense percentages, movement speed, things like that.

 

[Once more unto the Codex]

I been playing battle bros a lot and I been thinking between it and sir techs jagged alliance and wizardry 8. Wouldn't it be cool if pillars had some sort of morale/resolve system. Certain companions fight better slightly as group

There were a couple of talents and auras in PoE1 IIRC that created effects similar to this. Actually, all of the auras created variations of this.

The paladin is built around that - powerful support abilities for both groups (auras) and individuals (exhortations).

But it isn't really a morale system, it's just a bonus to attack/defense percentages, movement speed, things like that.

I guess what is being described is a way to have to companion relationship system to have mechanical effects in battle.

 

[Lacrymas]

I guess what is being described is a way to have to companion relationship system to have mechanical effects in battle.

This is nothing new though, DA:O and NWN2 had bonuses depending on your relationship with the companions. This isn't a very good idea in practice because it forces you to game the dialogue choices to get the mechanical benefits you want. D:OS1 also had this problem with traits. This whole things needs to be thought-out better to circumvent/fix that.

 

[santino27]

I guess what is being described is a way to have to companion relationship system to have mechanical effects in battle.

This is nothing new though, DA:O and NWN2 had bonuses depending on your relationship with the companions. This isn't a very good idea in practice because it forces you to game the dialogue choices to get the mechanical benefits you want. D:OS1 also had this problem with traits. This whole things needs to be thought-out better to circumvent/fix that.

Agreed. There's a fine line between giving relationships (any relationships) weight in the game and making the player feel like they have to do things a certain way or include certain people to avoid gimping themselves.

 

[jungl]

Paladin class is very static and boring. I'm talking about unique dialogue lines and buffs/debuffs that can trigger in combat if conditions are met. Pelleginas trait would be "stalwart" where if party members get knocked down and raised back up it has a chance to trigger. She releases slight aura gives everyone short deflect bluff. Essentially my idea is fluff but adds a cool dynamic to combat.

 

[Prime Junta]

Paladin class is very static and boring.

 

[Quillon]

I guess what is being described is a way to have to companion relationship system to have mechanical effects in battle.

This is nothing new though, DA:O and NWN2 had bonuses depending on your relationship with the companions. This isn't a very good idea in practice because it forces you to game the dialogue choices to get the mechanical benefits you want. D:OS1 also had this problem with traits. This whole things needs to be thought-out better to circumvent/fix that.

Agreed. There's a fine line between giving relationships (any relationships) weight in the game and making the player feel like they have to do things a certain way or include certain people to avoid gimping themselves.

I don't remember Obs mentioning any mechanical effects, they said if companions don't like you their barks will change during combat or out of combat; that Eder will say "carry it yourself" if you give him a piece of equipment.

 

[Prime Junta]

Well I mean, it's boring in the sense that there aren't any awesomebuttons.

Reviving Exhortation. Liberating Exhortation. Flames of Devotion. Inspiring Triumph. Sacred Immolation. How fucking awesome do the buttons have to be?

 

[Luckmann]

I have to say, though, playing a Paladin felt exactly as stated; rather static and boring. I cannot, however, substantiate this beyond "It felt that way", today, because it's simply so long ago that I played PoE and I literally cannot remember why it felt so meh. Just that it did.

 

[Lacrymas]

I have to say, though, playing a Paladin felt exactly as stated; rather static and boring. I cannot, however, substantiate this beyond "It felt that way", today, because it's simply so long ago that I played PoE and I literally cannot remember why it felt so meh. Just that it did.

I suppose, if we are to believe Prime Junta, that it takes a while for the paladin to get going. I, unsuccessfully, tried to make an orlan paladin tank and it was very static at first. I didn't get to the later levels to know if that changes.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Should've seen my lineup with ranged Paladin. Now that was fire and forget gameplay.

 

[Parabalus]

I have to say, though, playing a Paladin felt exactly as stated; rather static and boring. I cannot, however, substantiate this beyond "It felt that way", today, because it's simply so long ago that I played PoE and I literally cannot remember why it felt so meh. Just that it did.

I find fighters to be the same, and I mostly attribute that to the lack of position dependent abilities, unlike other melees. On monks/barbs/rogues you're trying to line up torment/carnage/sa constantly, while with these two it's click and single target abilities which you mostly use on combat start.

That's only really noticeable if you want to make them damage dealers, on a more micro-light role I really enjoy them primarily because of Liberating Exhortation+rest of them, Pallegina in particular since she also has the FoD haste buff.

If you time Liberating Exhortation you can really negate a lot of stuff since it lasts so long, if you time the end of the cast right you can outright suppress dangerous stuff like Cleansing Flames for the duration of combat without taking a single tick.

 

[Maculo]

I never bothered with any of the classes beyond Priest and Cipher (still need to finish that playthrough). Most of the time, I play for the more RP fluffy character, which Priests fill. Moreover, with PoE I can always hire a purely combat companion (Wizard, Cipher, etc)

 

[LizardWizard]

Barbs are good fun especially with leap and per encounter heart of fury.

 

[santino27]

i kind of just want buttons that explode all over the place and have little xp and damage counters come spilling out of enemies

Somewhere, the producer of Dragon Age 2 feels a shiver go down his spine, as if someone is speaking his name.

 

[Grape_You_In_the_Mouth]

Wow this had the most disappointing stretch goals I could have imagined. Absolutely no extra plot content other than possibly more islands than before. The only upside I see is that they have more money to spend on more content anyway and the relationship writing will be written by some women as opposed to nerdy guys. But seriously, relationships?????

 

[Prime Junta]

I suppose, if we are to believe Prime Junta, that it takes a while for the paladin to get going. I, unsuccessfully, tried to make an orlan paladin tank and it was very static at first. I didn't get to the later levels to know if that changes.

A tank is obviously gonna be less active than a striker, and you can build a pretty passive paladin too if you want.

But if you want awesome-buttons, nobody has as many as the paladin (if you don't count spells), and most of 'em are per-encounter so you can mash them to your heart's content.

 

[Grotesque]

 

[Jazz_]

^ not enough sea foam at the water's edge, the foreshore's sand is not wet where the water retreats, unnatural looking.

 

[Sherry]

Hi.

What an evening. No what a day spending it with Obsidian during the live Twitch stream and I recognized a few names in the chat too so we were all hanging out together. :D I was drinking. Dini was drinking and then suddenly everyone was drinking so a really big congratulations to the team for allowing us into your lives for the duration of the countdown and hitting a whooping $4,407,598! When I first joined the site I wasn't sure what to expect despite reading a number of threads and watching other rude comments but the Pillars and Deadfire thread has been more than any other forum experience for me. Since my first post here there is always countless new Deadfire information posted that all I had to do was press F5 whenever I got back to the computer and voila, a slew of knowledge.

Honestly I do not know if I would have found that information searching all the other sites out there or if I did it would be fake news. Last night was so much fun for me and hearing all about Deadfire and just seeing the faces of the people working on the game and just really being down to earth with their rum shots and drinking yucky beer was a wonderful way to connect a community with the developer of games. So thanks so much for this Codex for providing links and posts about when the videos went live.

And to Obsidian I cannot say enough about Pillars and how much hours of enjoyment it brought me but I am upset about Sagani but hoping to get attached to a new party in my cabin. I started screaming at hearing the shout-out to Codex and the pirate ship and TheSentinel and then Randal omg . It truly felt like my first concert to see Paula Abdul with all the growing excitement right to the end of the Twitch stream. When a developer gives a community an open shout-out you know the community is doing something right for the industry!

okay. I do not want to gush too much but a final thank-you also to the admin who keep the place up and running and read my request about a name change which was in the works for awhile. When I logged in this morning the request had come through so you all may remember me as my childhood pet's name Randal but from now on I am Sherry which goes with my mini portrait from Ultima 6 the series I grew up playing when I was little.

My transformation is now complete. I am a true Codexer!

Thanks,
Sherry

 

[Sherry]

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Hi.

The beach and floating body part in the video they showed really stood out as a gasp moment. I gather we'll be able to reach the body where the sand is still lightly coloured and enter the water. It's pretty cool and may offer an insight into future areas such as a flooded cave or just a cave entrance off the water as the sea enters the cave before turning to stone/sand. The body shadow under the water is impressive too.

Some of my own questions went unanswered too like asking if equipment will be available to negate the effects of being slowed down by deep sand effects like show in another video, or some sort of goggles to wear to negate the loss of perception in a wind/tropical storm due to high winds. Or any other sort of equipment to help with negative environment effects but I am concerned about exploding barrels I just hope they are not scattered all over the world just so we can use them to blow up for combat specific areas. Yup. Here comes combat, just look at all those nicely placed barrels up ahead on such an empty beach right? One or two in places you would find barrels is okay but barrels placed to use in every combat situation is dumb.

Still no cloud shadows in any of the videos shown. Oh well. Who do I talk to for that? Is it Dimitri?

Thanks,
Sherry

 

[Sentinel]

wait, Sherry?
what the fuck is this shit? Where the fuck's Randal?

 

[Projas]

I'm still calling you Randal, Randal.