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Pillars of Eternity Beta Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Obsidian Entertainment' started by Duraframe300, Aug 18, 2014.

  1. Edward_R_Murrow Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Jeez, that draconic ecology is really dumb.

    A lot of PoE's creatures are stuck in a tough place. They have to replicate the combat/questing functions of classic D&D monsters while also integrating well, thematically and tonally, with the more "gritty" world-building that Sawyer is doing. So instead of reptilian-humanoid kobolds that are dumb, violent, and worship dragons, we have the reptilian-humanoid xaurips that can't communicate with other sapient beings because of their snouts, are violent, and worship dragons. I get it, and I can mostly deal with that (though the snout/communication part irks me in a few ways, mostly related to issues outside the scope of the gameworld).

    But the way they handled dragons...are you kidding me? Classic case of trying way too hard to be different. The fluid sexuality, epigenetics, extremely strange life-cycle and reproductive habits...come on. Are they just trolling everyone at this point?
     
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  2. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 BattleTech A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    I suspect your exposure to certain heterodox websites has affected your impression of this

    It looks fine to me.
     
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  3. AwesomeButton Cut a deal with the authorities Patron

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    My take is they are trolling Dragon Age.

    It's an interpretation I like and I'll stick to it even if they deny. I like the explanation behind this feature of dragons in its own right, because it has parallels in real-world biology and this makes the fantasy more believable imo, but if it's also trolling Dragon Age it makes it more fun :lol:
     
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  4. aeonsim Augur

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    The sex shifting is fine, numerous species do so (see frogs, and a number of fish).
    A multi-stage life cycle isn't that crazy either (see frogs again, butterflies/moths), though I can't immediately think of any with 3 stages off the top of my head (except maybe some parasites).
    Multiple physical outcomes with the same genes/species is rare but I was at a conference last week where an example (type of plankton) had 2 possible fates.
    Colour changing to fit the environment is also seen in some species.

    The most unrealistic thing is the different elemental breath attacks, but hey magic so why not...

    Though we do have different species that have different attacks some can shock with an electric charge, others spray steam/heated chemicals or spit poison so while it seems unlikely that it's possible to combine all those in one species it's not like we're talking about a shapeshifter...
     
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  5. Cyberarmy Arcane Patron

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  6. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite Sawyerist Sawyer's Bride No Fun Allowed

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    It was a plot point in Jurassic Park how, because of the frog dna they used, the dinosaurs were able to change their sex and breed without restrictions. :smug:
     
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  7. abnaxus Arcane

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    They wanted to troll DraQ
     
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  8. Wizfall Arbiter

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    Sawyer telling you almost all cRPG's character system are doing it wrong and then creating a fabulous system where Might make you a better healer and cast more powerful spell so now he can play a muscle wizard (and you must be bodybuilder wizard now to cast powerful spells or heal because that makes much more sense... right ?) and you did not notice the trolling already ?:bounce:
     
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  9. doggfookker Educated

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    Hey, does anyone want to see...

    my eternal pillar?

    ;-)
     
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  10. Tjaron Educated

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    While muscle hypertrophy is in part responsible for strength gains, a significant part is due to neural adaptions. Your CNS becomes more adapt at sending contraction signals to your muscles. That is why powerlifters and olympic lifters are usually significantly smaller and yet stronger than most top bodybuilders. So just think of "Might" as having a very powerful CNS (instead of a big, muscular figure) which also helps in channeling powerful magic.
     
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  11. Sensuki Arcane Cuck

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    Codex 2014 Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong A Beautifully Desolate Campaign
    I'm bored, so I'm going to post the stuff from the newly updated credits from v435:

    Three Environment Artists apparently also worked on the game:

    Kelvin Nakamura (Environment Art Intern)
    Jena Mae Ruhl
    Demi Warren

    The outsource studio was Streamline Studios

    Additional Art (which probably means portraits and/or icons?)

    Aaron DuBois
    Nicole Evanich
    Bobby Hernandez
    Jessica Kernan
    Geoff Schofield

    Audio Designer

    Adam Lehwald

    Additional Programming

    Preston Hulcy (we heard about him during the production meeting)
    Chris Jones
    Nate McDorman
    Bryson Thill

    The four unknown QA (probably hired later)

    Markus J. Burks
    Blake Cramer
    Charles Teng
    Ken Tran

    CASTING AND VOICE

    Recorded at PCB Productions, Los Angeles, CA

    Talent Direction: Valerie Arem

    Cast

    Valerie Arem
    Edward Bosco
    Richard Epcar
    Todd Haberkorn
    Mela Lee
    Matthew Mercer
    Dave B. Mitchell
    Liam O'Brien
    Tara Platt
    Sam Regal
    Cindy Robinson
    Gigi Sarroino
    Patrick Seitz
    Stephanie Sheh
    Michael Sinterniklaas
    Chris Smith

    There's also a special thanks section which includes VO people eg. Orion Acaba (he did the E3 narration) and Elspeth Eastman also did some voice. It's possible that some of those people did the voice sets?
     
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  12. Sensuki Arcane Cuck

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    Test video about damage calculation



    I'll make a better one at a later stage. I forgot a few things, and the recovery time formula is wrong.
     
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  13. Bester Arcane Vatnik

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  14. Sensuki Arcane Cuck

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    Codex 2014 Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong A Beautifully Desolate Campaign
    What he means is - if you want to be able to use any modding other than edited code, support that thread, because now you can't edit items, spells or abilities without extreme difficulty.
     
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  15. Zorba the Hutt Arcane Weasel

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    Surprising, given this recent interview:

     
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  16. Ellef Deplorable

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    What possible advantage could there be in doing this? I imagine it must be some sort of temp fix or error.
     
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  17. Bester Arcane Vatnik

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    It's most likely an unintentional side effect of the memory optimization pass. Doesn't matter, what's important is are they aware of it and are they going to fix it? Even if they have absolutely NO time whatsoever for it right now, at least make a promise to fix it by v1.1. It's pretty bad to give something to people and then to take it away.
     
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  18. Frusciante Arbiter The Real Fanboy

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    I just played the beta again for first time in couple of months. Combat seems much improved. However, there is barely any soound in the game. Is there a bug with the sound? I hear no music, no background noise etc.
     
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  19. Sensuki Arcane Cuck

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    There are a few sound bugs, yep. There may be a final BB patch next week.
     
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  20. Sensuki Arcane Cuck

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    For the next version of the IE mod, we'll have a bottom bar UI submitted by Karkarov which I like a lot better than Kaz's one. It's pretty evident that Obsidian only spent a couple of hours on the solid UI just to shut everyone up. I wouldn't be surprised if they laughed that people were happy about it or something.

    Below are a couple of WIPs, the bottom one is a 99% finished version of my preferred layout

    [​IMG]
     
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  21. Apexeon Arcane

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    So are you saying OE are lazy with there UI?
     
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  22. Sensuki Arcane Cuck

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    Apexeon They implemented a solid backing in v435. These are the default textures (with modded element positioning).

    Most of the textures are recycled from other parts of the game.
     
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  23. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite Sawyerist Sawyer's Bride No Fun Allowed

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    So Obsidian hired a white (possibly half-Asian) woman to voice Pallegina, good to see blackface is still alive and well.
     
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  24. Sensuki Arcane Cuck

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    Actually I'm not 100% sure who did Pallegina, I just thought it was her based on the imdb picture. Whoever it is sounds the part, they put on a Jamaican style accent for her.
     
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  25. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite Sawyerist Sawyer's Bride No Fun Allowed

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    Well all those female vas are either white or asian.

    Also Cindy Robinson and Gigi Sarroino are the same person.
     
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