Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Urthor]

I mean considering the revenue of the previous game, if it ships half a million copies in the first two weeks that's tremendous relative to what the first game cost. First game cost Kickstarter fees plus a little more, that's it, and earnt 20 million plus. It's still well profitable enough for Obsidian

 

[Jenkem]

It's not optimism.

The first 1.3 million copies of the Witcher 3 that sold on PC, over half were on GOG, a platform that is strongly preferred by a huge number of cRPG enthusiasts.

Nowadays, it's not a lot to suggest that the first couple hundred people who buy Deadfire are going to want to buy it on GOG.

It's games like this that are the major source of GOG's 8 percent share of the online distribution market.

maybe because GOG is owned and operated by CDPR and because of this they were able to put it on sale on GOG only while it was full price on steam and maybe just maybe it has more on GOG because third party resellers like greenmangaming, humblebundle, etc. only sold gog keys

 

[Pizzashoes]

This game triggers are total shit! Hope the guy that programmed this shit gets fucked by faggot nigger biker gang,incompetent lazy fuck! I was doing the slavers quest and decided to kill the slavers,next thing i know is that the retarded fish people took the island and the retarded native bitch goes all insane and say that i am to blame for doing her idiotic quest,later on the primitive queen decides to send me to those idiot on a quest,the moment i get the quests already tells me that the negotiations failed and the idiots won't join me. I snapped at this shit and cleansed the island! Also i think that pirate quests are bugged and don't start.

I agree. There is a lot of freedom, though, so some combinations not being correct can be expected.

 

[Infinitron]

Infinity Engine-style RPGs are extremely popular with GOG's userbase. I believe PoE1 is actually the most successful "premium-priced" (more than $20) title on GOG that isn't a Witcher game.

So Deadfire probably will earn more than other games on GOG. I'm skeptical that it'll be that much more though.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

It's not optimism.

The first 1.3 million copies of the Witcher 3 that sold on PC, over half were on GOG, a platform that is strongly preferred by a huge number of cRPG enthusiasts.

That's a silly example. Witcher and GOG are both owned by CDP.

But there's probably a degree of overlap between PC users who bought Witcher 3 in the first month and PC users who will buy Pillars of Eternity: Deadfire in the first month.

I'm reasonably sure that RPGs are a genre that performs well on GOG, especially without a strong community or multiplayer element.

Over time, Steam sales from casual buyers will cause the Steam numbers to dwarf GOG sales, but the early, high expense sales should be keeping reasonable pace.

This is a genre that GOG went to painstaking efforts to market on their platform.

I'm sure there is an overlap between Witcher audience and Pillars audience. But the reason why Witcher moves a lot of copies on GOG is because Witcher fans deliberately buy it on GOG to support the company, rather than give a 30% cut to Gaben so he can sell more hats.

 

[Jenkem]

imagine if all the people who pirated here bought it would be a success

 

[FreeKaner]

Who are the pirates?

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

As much as I want this game to sell well so we get a high-effort part 3, I admit I feel smug sense of satisfaction watching their retarded "We're just like DOS2 guys!" marketing plan turn to ash.

 

[FreeKaner]

As much as I want this game to sell well so we get a high-effort part 3, I admit I feel smug sense of satisfaction watching their retarded "We're just like DOS2 guys!" marketing plan turn to ash.

Especially considering this is a better game.

 

[Jenkem]

poe 3 will be a visual novel

Pillars of Eternity: My Little Animancer - Excelsius Alpha

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

Well, I'm loving it. Sure isn't perfect, but heck, I couldn't even be arsed to finish PoE1 due to loading times and encounter spam.

Regarding the romance stuff. What annoyed me is how the gay fish started approaching me. It felt very out of place in that situation and was just kinda embarrassing. I wouldn't mind it if I - as player - would have started it, but the way it was done... eh. Also: Why are there no romances between my party members? Why is it that always everyone is hot on the player only?

1. Your companions do romance each other! Just give it some time. That’s the whole point of the new relationship system.

2. I actually found fish boy to be 100% believable. You must live under a rock if you don’t know people who immediately hit on anything with two legs. He’s an irresponsible horndog who’s spent his whole life being told how awesome he is and now believes he’s god’s gift to both men and women. In terms you guys might understand, Tekehu is a bisexual Chad.

My gripe with the romances is that they aren’t gated by your stats. Making all the romance-ready companions functionally bisexual is merely lazy, but making your behavior the only thing they judge you on is downright unbelievable. At least some of them should only be into characters with high enough might or constitution or dexterity or intelligence or even resolve. Or at a minimum the game should make you work harder for it if you can’t pass the stat checks. Maybe Maia will bone you when you get her disposition to 2 if you have nimble fingers, but you have to get her to 3 or 4 if your DEX is low.

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

Dude, I'm too drunk for that discussion(s) right now!

 

[Parabalus]

As much as I want this game to sell well so we get a high-effort part 3, I admit I feel smug sense of satisfaction watching their retarded "We're just like DOS2 guys!" marketing plan turn to ash.

Especially considering this is a better game.

Who was even the target audience of D:OS2? Consoles?
It's almost universally reviled here, even by people that liked D:OS1, yet sold like hotcakes.

 

[Morality Games]

As much as I want this game to sell well so we get a high-effort part 3, I admit I feel smug sense of satisfaction watching their retarded "We're just like DOS2 guys!" marketing plan turn to ash.

Especially considering this is a better game.

Who was even the target audience of D:OS2? Consoles?
It's almost universally reviled here, even by people that liked D:OS1, yet sold like hotcakes.

It's not universally reviled. A few Codexers played it and hated it and the majority that never tried it stayed neutral or parroted that opinion and the few who played it who did like it generally kept quiet.

That's been the trend on the Codex for a long time.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

As much as I want this game to sell well so we get a high-effort part 3, I admit I feel smug sense of satisfaction watching their retarded "We're just like DOS2 guys!" marketing plan turn to ash.

Especially considering this is a better game.

Yes! My thoughts exactly. We got a better game and Obsidian got a slap on the wrist and an example what happens if you ignore your core audience.

They bent over backwards to try and expand their reach. Romances. Full VO. Every map littered with exploding barrels. Gay pirate captains on gay ships shooting gay bullets from gay cannons. But evidently all of that amounted to nothing sales wise.

Here endeth the lesson, Feargus.

 

[Maculo]

I am about 15 hours in.

• Neketaka is well done in my opinion. A lot of quests to build gold off of. I haven’t even explored much of the map yet.
• The undercity/old city is my favorite location so far. The atmosphere was nice and the encounters were enjoyable, especially with the part where a swarm (10+) of fat suicide zombies spawn.
• Empowered fireball is amazing.
• In the Temple of Gaun, there were npcs from PoE1 that I spared and/or redeemed.
• I find combat more readable. I can easily see what enemies have immunities or high defense types. It makes being a priest of eothas/evoker very fun, because I have multitude of spells to choose from.
• Finding unique items or killing mini-boss for unique items is satisfying.
• Did I mention that empower fireball is amazing?
• Difficulty picks up after the initial island.

 

[Morality Games]

Unfortunately, I can't do a sales-per-review conversion between Steam and GOG because I can't figure out to see foreign language reviews in GOG.

Going strictly off English reviews, GOG has about 200 and Steam has over 800. So it should be 25%.

However, GOG is strongly in a medium-strong markets like Poland (according to web traffic tracking sites), so I would imagine it would be closer to 33%.

About 10,000 Fig backers should have activated their copy on GOG and about 20,000-30,000 people should have bought in on GOG globally.

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

Maculo , what do you think about empowered fireball, is it worth it?

 

[2house2fly]

I think as long as there are more total owners than kickstarter backers that's something. I'm not sure Torment managed that

 

[Maculo]

I use my pc and Aloth to double up on empowered fireball from stealth. It has allowed me to overcome encounters that I am under leveled for.

 

[Morality Games]

Dexter

Not sure why you think that one is funny. Purchases per review are basically 1 to 100 and constant in all industries for all products in all cultures, albeit with a high margin of error and many outliers for products that spur a higher than average level of reviews (like the Mass Effect 3 ending or Dragon Age II). It's considered one of the bedrocks of data in markets analysis and one of the first thing analysts look at if something seems funny about other data metrics.

Due to fanboyism, video games and especially RPGs can be minor outliers, but as concerns Pillars of Eternity II, the 1,200 reviews on Steam correspond roughly to the 90,000-110,000 on Steamspy.

 

[Seethe]

There's inbred jackasses bitching about muh SJWs in this game as well? What ever happened to "don't get offended like a pussy for no reason"? You need the fucking rope, more than you claim that the SJWs themselves need it.

That’s like saying that it’s okay for muslims to come to our country and disseminate values that are against ours. If you are complaining about this you are not man enough and deserve the rope. Complete idiocy and inversion of values.

Please bend your neck forward.

Don't you have some pussydick to suck on while some fat nigger assfuck your pillow wife?

The average intelligence of a "muh SJW's" autistic mongrel.

As much as I want this game to sell well so we get a high-effort part 3, I admit I feel smug sense of satisfaction watching their retarded "We're just like DOS2 guys!" marketing plan turn to ash.

Especially considering this is a better game.

Yes! My thoughts exactly. We got a better game and Obsidian got a slap on the wrist and an example what happens if you ignore your core audience.

They bent over backwards to try and expand their reach. Romances. Full VO. Every map littered with exploding barrels. Gay pirate captains on gay ships shooting gay bullets from gay cannons. But evidently all of that amounted to nothing sales wise.

Here endeth the lesson, Feargus.

If that were to make a single speck of sense, it would've worked. That's not why DivOS2 succeeded, and not why PoE2 failed, hence the inconsistency.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

I think as long as there are more total owners than kickstarter backers that's something.

Don't forget that half of Figstarter money was investors and they get royalties from sales.

 

[Sentinel]

The first 1.3 million copies of the Witcher 3 that sold on PC, over half were on GOG, a platform that is strongly preferred by a huge number of cRPG enthusiasts.

Because CDPR gave free GOG copies to people who bought 900-series NVIDIA cards. These counted as sales.

 

[Sentinel]

By the way they really do need to up the difficulty. I haven't used alchemy or potions, grenades or empowers except to try them out. God dammit Sawyer. It's actually making me lose interest a bit just steamrolling everything.

also why do they insist on kangaroo dragons