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KickStarter Phoenix Point, the next game from X-COM creator Julian Gollop

Discussion in 'Strategy Gaming' started by Infinitron, Mar 18, 2016.

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    It would be pretty cool if you did these things with stealth or no witnesses or whatnot and could blame the acts on some other faction and start a war. Though I guess it couldn't be fully symmetrical since it would be pretty annoying if other factions did that to the player.

    It would be pretty cool if by assassinating/kidnapping leaders you could influence the internal politics of factions, but that seems a bit off narratively.
     
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    Agreed. He did Chaos Reborn, warts and all, and didn't back down on whiners crying about RNG. I sincerely believe that he can pull this off and give us the game that we need and deserve. :obviously:
     
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    Phoenix Point's Facebook page is showing us what they call
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    reminds me of
     
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    https://www.pcgamesn.com/phoenix-point/xcom-julian-gollop

     
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    I didn't really parse the backstory before. Great to see this is a "mutants from the mist" story instead of a space aliens flying saucers story.
     
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    There are alien stuff in the story though too. I read some of the stories from this Kyratzes dude - one of them was clearly about some discovery on the moon as far as I can recall which played a big role
     
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    Btw it was "The Hatch" story from these: https://phoenixpoint.info/archives
    Some of them are pretty good actually, I like the writing style of Kyratzes in particular
     
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    The space one was the best. Reminded me of old school Sci-fi horror.
     
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    Considering that Spanish is in supported languages since Fig campaign started....why this?
     
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    I hope Julian can deliver with this.
    ELEX has come out of nowhere and pleasantly surprised me but this is still my most anticipated title.
    Q4 2018 seems like a very long time to wait.
    My expectations are somewhat higher compared to something like Battletech for example.

    It seems to be shaping up quite well, the alien limb system is a stroke of genius.
    All the designs look great. All the plot/factions/etc sound great so far on paper.
    I don't think they've got the budget to recreate Silent Storm type destruction unfortunately.

    UFO, TFTD and Laser Squad Nemesis are all top notch (can still find links to the latest LSNClient on the LSN forums)
    APOC
    is hit and miss - great city layer though. Maybe OpenApoc can redeem it.

    Firaxis XCOM is so so. They could have called it anything to be honest; bought the name purely to cash in on the nostalgia.
    It's all bland and mechanically simple. No large scale destruction. The move/fire system is junk as well. And those stupid spawn points.
    It was never about "heroes" and "special abilities" - it's all about fielding expendable troops and blowing shit up.
    Just another inferior iteration/clone.
    Why bother with the long war when we've got OpenXcom?

    I'm a bit surprised that Pheonix Point didn't hit higher funding numbers compared to the likes of Wasteland 2 and Divinity, etc.
    I assume people either dislike fig or they're a bit burnt out with crowdfunding and inxile's broken promises.
     
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    It's a bit of both for me. After being burnt on Kickstarter twice (I backed the Mandate and some other game :negative: ), I'm honestly wary to put in more cash where it cannot be held accountable for. Fig being the centre of some controvesy didn't help. Hey, it turns out good, then it's a D1P. Else, I don't get it. Win-win for me.
     
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    Yeah, Kickstarter fatigue is a big factor. Gollop would have raised a lot more money a couple of years ago.
     
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    Partially his fault tho.

    It's clear he had no interest in making another Xcom game until he saw Firaxis made some money with it.
     
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  23. Alexandrosgender: ⚧ Cipher

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    I think his two failed attempts at getting similar projects off the ground show that he had interest but couldn't get funding for them. His mistake was pursuing Chaos Reborn first instead of striking while the iron was hot with an X-Com game.
     
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    Pitching this even after the first one got released would have probably raised more money/interest than it did.
     
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    Also, he could have done a total different theme than sci-fi;

    although lovecraft vibe is cool, if he did fantasy he could differentiate more from nuxcom and grab some casual too.

    I don't get why all Xcom clones are sci-fi when nobody haven't done a fantasy one yet
     
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