PC Gamer (lol) top 100 greatest games of all times (ever)

[Astral Rag]

To think I used to look forward to buying PC Gamer...

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[commie]

This is a better list:

http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/chromium/lists/pc-powerplays-top-100-pc-games-ca-2000/83834/

Ignore the positions....just enjoy the glory(for the most part).

To think I played and own(ed) most of them.

 

[Astral Rag]

Their comment on Thief Gold is so stupid I have no words.

Chris T: The original Thief doesn’t hold up as well as its successors, but it earns inclusion on this list for being such an important part of FPS history. This was the game that established that you didn’t need to run at 60km/h and carry a shotgun all the time. It opened the door to slower, more methodical approaches to play, leading not only to the stealth genre but also horror and, many years later, the ‘walking simulator’. Without Thief there’s no Deus Ex, no BioShock, no Gone Home. If you’re interested at all in the history of game design on the PC, you need to have played it.

 

[Siel]

Why do people keep using "the PC" instead of "PC"?

 

[Machocruz]

To think I used to look forward to buying PC Gamer...

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This old list makes me want to play PC games!

The new list makes me want to play Russian Roulette

 

[Infinitron]

Also, it's a stealth-action game not a stealth game.

Dishonored is a victim of what I call the "Hardcore Gamer First Person Stealth Dominance Phenomenon". Given a first person game with stealth features, a subset of hardcore gamers will automatically assume that it is a "stealth game". I've even seen some people calling the original Deus Ex a stealth game.

As for the difficulty, like I said: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...s-serkonan-vacation.99891/page-7#post-3984801

 

[A user named cat]

We have our top RPG lists but where is the Codex top 100 games of all time list? Preferably decided by 2015 users only.

 

[Riskbreaker]

Thing is, current-day PC Gamer, RPS and the like ain't really aimed at PC gamers. They are aimed at what I like to call "NeoGAF PC gamer": folks that started gaming on PC during the last couple of years, due to low price of digital games and "60 fps tru HD HAMSTAR RACE" crap.

 

[Telengard]

Where do you mean by the toll booth?

Anyway, playing the game normally there is no way you would be able to kill that many guards just by button mashing. If they they get out of your field of vision then combat gets fairly deadly, as does melee combat against a bunch of guards with guns.

It's actually pretty easy to kill that many, since you have infinite parry, and the guards interfere with each other rather than ganging up and just gunning you down. Alls it takes is a fuckload of patience to wait for the massed AI to leave an opening. Then mash the attack button. In fact, while fighting with your back to the wall is risky, since you get enclosed, it's actually easier, since you only have to focus on one thing and the game does most of the work for you. It's not like the enemy has a wide variety of attacks you have to watch for.

And so, I wasn't accusing the game of failing to be stealth. I was accusing it of failing to be an action game. Indeed, it is something far more heinous: a stealth superhero game. Take one of the easiest genres in the biz, take out all the hard enemies, and let you use yoor superpowers to beat up on mooks who can barely fight back. Classic empowerment fantasy.

 

[Nuclear Explosion]

And so, I wasn't accusing the game of failing to be stealth. I was accusing it of failing to be an action game. Indeed, it is something far more heinous: a stealth superhero game. Take one of the easiest genres in the biz, take out all the hard enemies, and let you use yoor superpowers to beat up on mooks who can barely fight back. Classic empowerment fantasy.

Difficulty is not the be-all and end-all. All of the weapons and powers in the game are fun and satisfying to use (the only single player FPP game that has better melee combat, as far as I'm aware, is Dark Messiah).

 

[Lyric Suite]

HL1 a fucking walking sim prototype.
Hl2 is a full blown waiting sim. You pew pew and do some stupid physics tricks because it was novel in 2004 and then you wait for everyone to stop talking and open the plot door. And wait. And wait some more. Then repeat.

Half Life 1 was a good gayme bro. Half Life 2 was just a piece of shit though. I don't usually watch this kind of crap, but this video review actually does a decent job explaining just how bad a sequel Half Life 2 was:



And finally, somebody who actually understands why Xen was good. The fucking QQing about one of the best final areas in any game ever because of an handful of annoying jumping puzzles and all the mouth breathers who go along with that opinion because they can't think for themselves shows how stupid most gaymers really are.

 

[CyberWhale]

>list filled with a bunch of godawful shit
>retards complaining about the position of Fallout: New Vegas and Half-Life 2

 

[:Flash:]

To think I used to look forward to buying PC Gamer...

What gets me most about this list is the sheer variety of the games, both considering technology and gameplay. There 3d games, 2d games, isometric views, top-down-views, sidescrolling views, polygonal 3D, sprite-based 3D. There are lots of different genres, and games that cannot even be classified into a genre (or invented their own).
Nowadays its a handful of genres, all displayed with the same kind of technology, all following the established conventions of those genres.
Golden Age of gaming indeed.

 

[upwardlymobile]

This old list makes me want to play PC games!

it reminded me I need to play DOTT again

 

[Tehdagah]

To think I used to look forward to buying PC Gamer...

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Alone in the Dark 2 in #7



And lol for "In many ways the nearest thing to an interactive movie so far"...

 

[Average Manatee]

We have our top RPG lists but where is the Codex top 100 games of all time list? Preferably decided by 2015 users only.

We should do this, if only to track the of newfags.

 

[Black]

Pop lists everywhere are terrible, be it politically correct gamer or popamoledex.

 

[~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-AIN'T]

Alone in the Dark 2 in #7



And lol for "In many ways the nearest thing to an interactive movie so far"...

There's a lot of retarded shit in that list too. I particularly like giving Cyro credit for Dune II instead of Westwood.

(though Cryo's Dune is also great - but decidedly not Dune II)

 

[upwardlymobile]

And lol for "In many ways the nearest thing to an interactive movie so far"...

there was a fad in the early 90s for "full motion video" as the future of pc games. mercifully quake came out in 96 and everyone forgot about it

 

[stray]

We should do this, if only to track the of newfags.

I'd probably throw the idea off.

I'm a newfag, but have been playing games since the early 80s. I just never felt the need to talk about it here specifically

I even remember when PC Gamer was decent.

 

[Marquis de Lirium]

To think I used to look forward to buying PC Gamer...

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Different times, same shit. Their top 3 is the usual selection of whatever teenagers at the time of the publication enjoyed playing. The overall selection is of course a lot better than this years all time top (lol), but that's solely because games where a lot better back then, not because game "journalists" had actual taste.

 

[stray]

SimCity always sucked to me.

I'm more disappointed that X-Wing trumps WC. But that's to be expected.

Some of these games have been legitimately trumped with newer ones. The Ico and SotC stuff is better than Flashback. And most new shooters are better than old ones.

 

[Infinitron]

Half Life 1 was a good gayme bro. Half Life 2 was just a piece of shit though. I don't usually watch this kind of crap, but this video review actually does a decent job explaining just how bad a sequel Half Life 2 was:



And finally, somebody who actually understands why Xen was good. The fucking QQing about one of the best final areas in any game ever because of an handful of annoying jumping puzzles and all the mouth breathers who go along with that opinion because they can't think for themselves shows how stupid most gaymers really are.

Very entertaining video, although he overstates his case in a few places ("X-Files Area 51 base - interesting, Post-Apocalyptic 1984 city - not interesting!")

 

[pippin]

"In many ways the nearest thing to an interactive movie so far"...

This phrase has been going around for longer than what we think, actually. Then the FMV craze happened and people really thought Phantasmagoria was going to be like the first step towards the future.

The overall selection is of course a lot better than this years all time top (lol), but that's solely because games where a lot better back then, not because game "journalists" had actual taste.

This. Some Codexers have better writing skills than any of the journos from the 90s. I have a HoMM2 review which spends 3 pages saying stuff like "uh, dude, play this game cos... uh, it's cool". We know it's probably the best HoMM game out there, but as I said I do believe most of you would make a better review.

 

[Delbaeth]

To think I used to look forward to buying PC Gamer...

There's something wrong here.
I remember playing Dune II in August 1993. And I was pretty sure it was released months before then.