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If anyone's still not sure whether to play this or not, the latest mission they added, Big Bank, seems to be a good map, a bit more like the original game's missions in structure it seems like to me.

ALSO, there are some really nice things in beta now if the steam discussions are to be believed.

First thing is they seem to have finally unfucked themselves and adjusted xp rewards across the board instead of their retarded "anti-farming" measures. Now every mission supposedly gives a reward on the same scale as Rats (I guess not exactly as much for one day jobs, but not like 15k compared to 250k like it used to be?)

Secondly I'm hearing they've made it so sensor trip mines mark out guards in stealth as if you'd have marked them by 'shouting', think that'll make me enjoy stealth a lot more at any rate. Might even make random lobby stealth viable on the harder jobs.
 
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I get the whole free content thing, but paid promotional material for what looks like a terrible movie getting cramed into the game after that shitty perk 'upgrade' is pretty gay. Oh well, time to close my eyes and pretend I'm larping Point Break.

Edit: Holy fuck lol I just booted up the game and there's a trailer of this Keanu movie playing first thing. What is wrong with these people?
 
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Oof, The new Skilldeck is utter dogshit, and the duel-wielding skill is restricted to very certain pistols. No duel-wielding shotguns, lmgs, MP5's etc + the only way to get to them is to take huge armor nerfs.

Do game developers not play with numbers on paper before they release shit anymore?
 
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I don't play this sequel because I don't buy DLCfests, but I follow the "story" and I missed Old Hoxton so much I can't help but feel a bit giddy now that he's back :love:
 

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Why the fuck do people like Hoxton so much? He's just a guy with a British accent.

That John Wick DLC:

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Gotta say, Payday: The Heist is fun. Judging by this thread, 2 is even better.
 

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Kinda yes, kinda no. It's cool that in (Most) heists you can choose to stealth or go loud, which occasionally has C&C ramifications in multi-day heists, but the heists from Payday 1 have a lot more character to 'em. Payday 2 also is a hell of a lot grindier. A lot. A LOT. But for another good side, they made normal cops tougher/deadlier and lessened the impact of non-BULLDOZAH supers so it's a little more consistent.

The grinding was what really fucked up Payday 2 for me though. Both because it wasn't particularly fun, and it made people with weak moral character (BRUTICIS AND ABSALOM) cheat for max money so they could do whatever they want, which then crushed their desire to play and greed to try to get that last bag of gold into the truck, which then crushed their desire to play the game in general. If they made money more plentiful it'd reduce the grinding a fair bit and help it. Things actually were better earlier on and then they patched it so you got less money from heists and the cost to respec your dude was increased.
 

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The just did exactly that, MHC. Both cash and XP rewards have been rebalanced since a few weeks back so it's almost too quick to get to 100.

I haven't had time to look at all the changes they've made this time around, I kind of wish they'd make up their minds on what they want their game to be now that it's been out for more than a year, apart from being some kind of billboard of course. Hey Overkill, we're totally excited by all your business opportunities, tell us more!!
 

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The just did exactly that, MHC. Both cash and XP rewards have been rebalanced since a few weeks back so it's almost too quick to get to 100.
Oh? For reals? I know they made a few "We upped the cash from heists, honest guys!" patches after nerfing it but it was still slow as fuck. If they rejiggered it properly I might have to load it up again.
 

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The just did exactly that, MHC. Both cash and XP rewards have been rebalanced since a few weeks back so it's almost too quick to get to 100.
Oh? For reals? I know they made a few "We upped the cash from heists, honest guys!" patches after nerfing it but it was still slow as fuck. If they rejiggered it properly I might have to load it up again.

I think they got rid of that "day bonus" part of the xp payout and instead set every heist to pay out in proportion to the big ones, firestarter and rats, though still somewhat relative to length and difficulty. So small stuff like jewelry store still doesn't pay out that much xp, but nightclub and bank heists were totally viable when I played a few weeks ago. As a consequence you no longer get smaller xp rewards for each day between days on FS/Rats etc, iirc.

The jist of it is that I could still level fairly quickly post level 60 without playing only rats, even when playing solo.
 
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Multi-headed Cow

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The just did exactly that, MHC. Both cash and XP rewards have been rebalanced since a few weeks back so it's almost too quick to get to 100.
Oh? For reals? I know they made a few "We upped the cash from heists, honest guys!" patches after nerfing it but it was still slow as fuck. If they rejiggered it properly I might have to load it up again.

I think they got rid of that "day bonus" part of the xp payout and instead set every heist to pay out in proportion to the big ones, firestarter and rats, though still somewhat relative to length and difficulty. So small stuff like jewelry store still doesn't pay out that much xp, but nightclub and bank heists were totally viable when I played a few weeks ago. As a consequence you no longer get smaller xp rewards for each day between days on FS/Rats etc, iirc.

The jist of it is that I could still level fairly quickly post level 60 without playing only rats, even when playing solo.
Oh, XP. XP was largely a non-issue, I got up high enough (Can't remember. 60s? 80s?) that I didn't have much burning desire for levels, it was mainly just the prohibitively high cost to do ANYTHING involving money. Couldn't really play around with shit due to how much everything costs. Started out leveling as a mastermind and never did get to respec because by the time I had gotten high enough to give mastermind a decent shake you no longer could inexpensively respec. In the end it mostly worked out because the CDS broteam had one of everyone so we were balanced out, but still would've been fun to dick around.

Looking at my screenshots I probably stopped in my 60s. Have pictures in 60s but none of them have the same jolly cooperation. http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/903260876182161383/054AFF1197010D28C766A71F38CC56F63A5F4A20/
 

WhiteGuts

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I got to lvl 80 and had millions in cash. There was literally nothing left to do, unless you're an obxnoxious achievement hunter. That was before they started adding content regularly.

I just bought the DLCs and will probably go back in, so whenever you fags wanna play, hit me up.
 

Zewp

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Wow. XP gain got a serious boost somewhere along the line. When I bought this game a few months ago it felt like I would get nowhere because I was still level 1 after doing a few missions. Reinstalled yesterday and level 16 after 4 or 5 missions.
 

Multi-headed Cow

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Wow. XP gain got a serious boost somewhere along the line. When I bought this game a few months ago it felt like I would get nowhere because I was still level 1 after doing a few missions. Reinstalled yesterday and level 16 after 4 or 5 missions.
That can also depend on the difficulty and missions you're doing. If you're with some high levels and do an overkill map you'll be getting tons of levels for one mission that early.
 

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