zool
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So I recently started playing Victoria : Revolutions for the first time (I have a habit of playing games for the first time 10+ years after their release) and enjoying very much trying to restore the Ottoman Empire to its former glory. Victoria made me realize how much I like Paradox's Europa engine : maybe it's just the nostalgia googles but I like the 2D map, the sometimes clunky-interface and more generally the old-school feel of the games.
Basically for me, the Europa engine games go like this :
- Hearts of Iron I : played this one years ago and I remember enjoying it, it was my first Paradox game. never played HoI II though I hear it's a much-improved version of HoI I.
- Crusader Kings : still my favorite Paradox game to this day with DVIP installed. I just love those medieval-looking portraits.
- Victoria : started playing now with the VIP mod and, once you've spent a few hours reading the manual and the wiki to get the hang of the economics, it's a blast.
Never played Europa Universalis though as I'm not very interested in that time period.
In contrast, I haven't played any of the newer games running on the Clausewith engine. While lack of time is the main culprit, I also don't see very much incentive to buy them :
- Hearts of Iron III : seems they decided to mainly improve and complexify the military part of the game, while HoI I was never only about war for me (even though it's obviously the most war-oriented Paradox game)
- Crusader Kings II : was eagerly awaiting CK's sequel but then when I saw screenshots of the map and those ugly-ass portraits, I decided to stick to CK. Some improvements seem nice (like the expanded possibilities to imprison, ransom, execute people etc) but the look of the game just doesn't do it for me. That and the retarded India DLCs and whatnot.
- Victoria II : haven't followed this one very closely since I hadn't played Victoria before but do the improvements in Victoria II really justify playing it instead of Victoria : Revolutions?
So what do you guys think? Would you recommend any of the Clausewitz engine games over the Europa engine counterparts?
Basically for me, the Europa engine games go like this :
- Hearts of Iron I : played this one years ago and I remember enjoying it, it was my first Paradox game. never played HoI II though I hear it's a much-improved version of HoI I.
- Crusader Kings : still my favorite Paradox game to this day with DVIP installed. I just love those medieval-looking portraits.
- Victoria : started playing now with the VIP mod and, once you've spent a few hours reading the manual and the wiki to get the hang of the economics, it's a blast.
Never played Europa Universalis though as I'm not very interested in that time period.
In contrast, I haven't played any of the newer games running on the Clausewith engine. While lack of time is the main culprit, I also don't see very much incentive to buy them :
- Hearts of Iron III : seems they decided to mainly improve and complexify the military part of the game, while HoI I was never only about war for me (even though it's obviously the most war-oriented Paradox game)
- Crusader Kings II : was eagerly awaiting CK's sequel but then when I saw screenshots of the map and those ugly-ass portraits, I decided to stick to CK. Some improvements seem nice (like the expanded possibilities to imprison, ransom, execute people etc) but the look of the game just doesn't do it for me. That and the retarded India DLCs and whatnot.
- Victoria II : haven't followed this one very closely since I hadn't played Victoria before but do the improvements in Victoria II really justify playing it instead of Victoria : Revolutions?
So what do you guys think? Would you recommend any of the Clausewitz engine games over the Europa engine counterparts?