Obsidian or inXile

[Makabb]

Which is better and why?

 

[Metatron]

It's a bit unfair to compare these 2 since Obsidian has 10+ years experience as a company in making rpgs while InXile was only recently capable of making anything other than a tablet game. Still, in terms of presentation PoE makes Wasteland 2 seem like amateur hour.

 

[Makabb]

Fargo is in game business since the 80's you know.

 

[Volrath]

Ineptile lol

 

[Metatron]

Fargo is in game business since the 80's you know.

I'm perfectly aware of that but he's just one man who hadn't managed a team developing anything serious in over a decade.

I wouldn't be surprised of Torment 2 turns out to be a lot better than Wasteland (like Dragonfall vs the first SRR campaign). I suspect that game to be make or break for InXile.

 

[Athelas]

It's not a contest.

I suspect Obsidian will win the poll because 'muh 2d iso grafix'.

 

[Makabb]

It's not a contest.

I suspect Obsidian will win the poll because 'muh 2d iso grafix'.

What about Torment?

 

[Morkar Left]

Neither is better. Different products.

But I grant Obsidian more experience with developing rpgs. They are doing this already since a decade? And they have only recently developed one really good (I guess, not finished with judgement) rpg. The other rpgs they did already had fully developed engines and the games weren't that good either / heavily flawed (besides NV).

InXile did really good for their first rpg. It's a new and small team, even if experienced veterans are in. And Fargo is more the experienced producer / business manager than designer.

Both studios a rising stars in classic rpgs which will finetune their products. I'm really interested in how Torment will be, how the PoE series (I hope) will develop and what will happen / gets mproved in a Wasteland 3 (again I hope).

Bioware will probably close its doors in the next 5 years because the studio is too big and they can't get the Bethesda audience.

 

[Metatron]

It's not a contest.

I suspect Obsidian will win the poll because 'muh 2d iso grafix'.

No though of course Wasteland 2 being a good contender for having the worst art direction in recent memory including a particulary terrible looking interface doesn't help.

 

[V_K]

HBS

 

[Seari]

Inxile actually (re)played PS:T before pitching their kickstarter, unlike Obsidian, who are fucking clueless about the game who's successor they're making.

 

[dukeofwhales]

Shitpost, nothing to be gained from this discussion.

 

[Makabb]

Shitpost, nothing to be gained from this discussion.

There is, who is more dreamy. MCA or Fargo, what did you think this thread is about?

 

[Roguey]

Inxile actually (re)played PS:T before pitching their kickstarter, unlike Obsidian, who are fucking clueless about the game who's successor they're making.

Adam Brennecke quite clearly played IWD2, there's video and everything.

 

[Rostere]

Obsidian will be better until Torment:TToN is released.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Torment will crush them all.

 

[Darkzone]

Torment will crush them all.

I hope, but currently i cannot make a statement about it. But until then Obsidian has created with PoE a much better experience, than inXile with W2. As i was younger i hated RtwP, now i enjoy it in PoE much more, than W2 TB combat.

 

[KK1001]

It's a tough call.

Obsidian, for all their experience, still has a lot of issues on the technical side. From a design perspective, Sawyer is okay, but his ideas are fairly unimaginative and the world of PoE didn't really grab me. Fenstermaker is fairly mediocre too, but I think he has some better ideas than Josh and the separation between systems design and narrative should have been more pronounced.

Wasteland 2 is pretty bad, but considering their lack of experience it wasn't a complete disaster. Saunders did a really great job on MotB. McComb was obviously instrumental in designing a lot of the Planescape universe, and he did a good job on his parts in Torment. Heine played a fairly instrumental role in in it, too. All that is really missing is Avellone at the helm.

We'll get the definitive answer once Torment is released. Personally I think Torment will be much better. McComb, Heine, and Ziets are a much stronger team than Sawyer and company, and I think $5 million goes a lot farther in a game like Torment than it does in PoE.

 

[Jaesun]

Obsidian, for all their experience, still has a lot of issues on the technical side. From a design perspective, Sawyer is okay, but his ideas are fairly unimaginative and the world of PoE didn't really grab me. Fenstermaker is fairly mediocre too, but I think he has some better ideas than Josh and the separation between systems design and narrative should have been more pronounced.

Apparently you don't actually know anything about Obsidian's development.

 

[Turok]

Where is the BOTH option?

 

[JarlFrank]

Where is the BOTH option?

You know what's pretty great about this?
Years ago, we would all have jumped on any half-decent RPG. Now, we have so many decent RPGs that we can afford to call some of them shit and discuss which is better and why!! We have Wasteland 2, PoE, Divinity OS, Shadowrun Returns and Dragonfall, Lords of Xulima, Might and Magic X, AND IT'S NOT STOPPING

Years ago, any of these games would've made the Codex jump in joy. Now, we even have the luxury of picking which games we like and which ones we don't. Holy shit we can be choosers now, the times of being beggars and voting Dragon Age GOTY because there is little else (that year there was also Risen though so fuck you, voters) is over!

 

[treborSux]

Fargo is in game business since the 80's you know.

I had a masochistic compulsion to play Total Recall on NES a few months ago, and saw Fargo's name at the top of the programming credits. I had no idea, not that it was even the 80s, but still.

FUN FACT: You get a free life in Total Recall if you go into the theater right at the beginning of the first stage and wait till they show Brian Fargo's name on the screen. I'm not joking.

 

[Night Goat]

Obsidian is better because they've released more than zero games I've cared about.

 

[bussinrounds]

Holy shit we can be choosers now, the times of being beggars and voting Dragon Age GOTY because there is little else (that year there was also Risen though so fuck you, voters)

KotC was also in 09. That should of been the winner.

 

[Hobo Elf]

I'll reserve my final opinion on InEptile until Torment comes out but purely going with Wasteland 2 vs PoE then I'd say Obsidian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> InEptile. It's not even a contest. Wasteland 2 was shovelware.