No (material) upgrade path for leather?

[Eyestabber]

So...about leather armor. Every armor has a 5-tier "upgrade" path, from bronze to sky metal each adding 1 DR/step. But leather doesn't seem to upgrade at all. So is choosing leather over metal a "trap" choice?

 

[t]

There's no "choosing" leather over metal, unless you worry about your 75 gold for the blacksmith.

 

[Shadenuat]

Leather is for characters who don't want AP restrictions and penalty to their Dodge.
However it does get worse than metal if you get your Crafting high enough as it nullifies all Light Metal disadvantages.

 

[Eyestabber]

However it does get worse than metal if you get your Crafting high enough as it nullifies all Light Metal disadvantages.

That was my point. The way I see it, there is no reason not to wear a Manica every time. Late game a dodger can even get away with wearing a fucking Lorica Segmentada. My character is destroying everything thanks to this, ahn...feature.

 

[Shadenuat]

Well it's not a big issue since as T said you don't really invest into anything but schematics.

If game had perks or more chances to level up DEX or if armor *did* actually cut your AP from Alchemy drugs and Silk/Leather had max AP14-16 it would be viable tho.

 

[Agesilaus]

They should probably implement a couple of unique upgrades for the leader/cloth armours. Maybe more pockets, or something. Who cares, I never use leather anyway and never will. If I'm fighting, I'm wearing metal armour; if I'm not a fighter, I'm walking around in expensive robes.

 

[Irenaeus II]

There's two levels of leather.

 

[Tigranes]

If your character doesn't invest in crafting it could be viable to use leather, especially in Teron. But yes, it does sseem a bit odd at the moment. Far too much a no-brainer for everyone to go 8AP and get upgraded metal armour.

Back in early beta when crafting was minimal/not implemented, the tradeoff was clearer.

 

[Mozg]

Ordu studded is pretty damn good until you get one of the special 10 armor penalty blue steel armors. If I could find enough reinforced leather in Teron to make a suit I'd do it every time.

 

[Irenaeus II]

11 AP ftw

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Why would there be? I mean, at the end, its just leather. It won't be the armor made from magic metal from the sky.

Light and heavy armors have enough variable options to make them fit any playstyle.

 

[axedice]

12AP dagger dodge assassin, still using looted 5DR leather armor (arena champion btw) since I don't have craft. There are 10-11 AP blue steel light plates everywhere, but no 12AP manica etc. , other than the 4DR iron gladiator manica that costs 1200. Maybe I missed some merchant?

 

[ZagorTeNej]

12AP dagger dodge assassin, still using looted 5DR leather armor (arena champion btw) since I don't have craft. There are 10-11 AP blue steel light plates everywhere, but no 12AP manica etc. , other than the 4DR iron gladiator manica that costs 1200. Maybe I missed some merchant?

Ordu trader in Maadoran sells a unique Ordu leather armor (11 AP though IIRC). Aside from that, Power Armor is the best light armor in the game by far, no contest.

 

[Jaedar]

Ordu trader in Maadoran sells a unique Ordu leather armor (11 AP though IIRC). Aside from that, Power Armor is the best light armor in the game by far, no contest.

Except power armor only allows 1h free. Can be a problem if you want to 2h or ranged.

 

[ZagorTeNej]

Except power armor only allows 1h free. Can be a problem if you want to 2h or ranged.

True but he said his char is a dagger dodge assassin, PA is the best choice for that build. Which I don't like that much to be honest, IMO PA should be a heavy armor with higher DR, only increase STR and have a high STR and CON requirement to even wear it. Maybe even a crafting and lore requirement to make it functional at all.

 

[Irenaeus II]

In AoD, even armor names are deceiviing.

 

[axedice]

Fun fact : there is a steel manica in Ganezzar suitable for 12AP, with 6DR. You loot it in the Power Armor fight...

 

[t]

Fun fact : there is a steel manica in Ganezzar suitable for 12AP, with 6DR. You loot it in the Power Armor fight...

Huh? So better than blue steel? I never even looted steel after going to Ganezzar...

 

[anus_pounder]

Auxillery, Lorica Segmentata, Hamata and Musculata can all be upgraded to 12AP. I like to LARP a wannabe big shot in Meteor Musculata and Pretorian Helmet.