Development Info No Aliens RPG from Obsidian Confirmed

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That's good for him.

Er, perhaps you should read the word according to its definition. Completing objectives while remaining undetected is stealth. If a game gives the player tools to enhance his ability to complete objectives without being detected, then the game supports stealth. Get over it.

Unfortunately, that wasn't all that was put under the umbrella term of stealth. Your petulance is a little too late and without a clue of everything else that involved said umbrella term.

Nice try, though.

Shame that Aliens: RPG won't be released, though those bulky aliens look not good at all.

When I first time read this I really hoped Ridley Scott was joking or on shit drugs. Alien 3/4 is okey to see, AvP fails in every way. Typical casual film, with so many stupid moments (to this day I laugh from scene when that babe runs with predator from explosion - James Bond would feel ashamed ) and very boring story.

Interesting fact: in typical interview the producer said that on purpose he tried make Lex not resemble Ripley. But Paul W.S. Anderson when started working on AvP, wanted Sigourney Weaver to play main role. Heck, he even send her script and S. Weaver response was that it sounds awful.

Oh, snap! When you kill something with a mine or trap it, you are detected, so we can't have the stealthy character using traps and mines! Thieves didn't scout and use no fuckin' traps in D&D! Sam Fisher don't use no motherfucking remote mines and spy cameras and shit! Man stealth has been such a well-defined game concept for so many fuckin' years that no one would ever include that shit in a game that promises "Stealth Action Redefined"!

That wasn't all, but hey, at least you are somewhat approaching on topic.

Pity it took you a re-read back through that thread to get a better idea of a clue. Now only if you bothered to actually read instead of skim, then you might have a bit more info.

Actually, the designer's own words should be fairly illuminating. I tried to send you a PM before you hurt yourself, but alas, it didn't arrive in time.

Srsly, guize, there are better things to get butthurt about than that.

You really got a place in Poland called Zork?

Are you really this incapable of realizing what a stupid statement you were making? "Supports stealth" is one thing. Calling a bunch of loosely correlated activities "Stealth gameplay" is another.

Am I right?

Zork is a state of mind. And it occurs only in the state of Poland.

Some people must simply grasp at straws, it is true.

I'd already read the other thread and saw the stuff about mines and traps. I reread it to make sure there was nothing else specifically mentioned. And there wasn't. You just made a big show as if there was something really terrible that they mentioned that could never be considered part of stealth gameplay, and now the best quote you can come up to support that is a vague statement that "stealth is shorthand for a million different gameplay elements" when you can't point to a single element that could never be considered part of stealth gameplay? Perhaps you were counting all the things in your head that could be even remotely considered a part of stealth gameplay, and you couldn't come up with anything near a million, and you were foaming at the mouth because you fail to grasp hyperbole.

If there was something specific that was more offensive, regarding your sensibilities of what "stealth gameplay" should include, I sure didn't see it.

Nah, I just thought his own words and description of the mechanics would suffice, but apparently not in your case.

Considering you didn't really bother to read the rest. *yawn* Sorry you missed the fun.

Besides, this place needed a new meme or two. This place is getting stale as a cattle car.

So you're complaining about their lack of distinction between "evasion" and "stealth"? Seriously? Sure, if by "evasion" you simply mean "running away from shit" that's not stealth. Any other means of evasion to complete objectives without detection can be broadly defined as stealth. Big deal. Please accept the fact that "stealth" was a word before it became a game design concept.

OK bitches, I want you to tell me whether AvP is worth watching, given that I hold the following opinions on the Aliens films

Alien - excellent, though boring now on fifth or so viewing (very slow).

Aliens - the greatest science fiction action film ever, bar none.

Alien 3 - shit. Horrid. I can't think of one thing I like about it. I remember thinking that they took away just about everything that was cool about Aliens and left us with this steaming...thing. In fact the first 5 minutes (i.e. opening credits) is good.

Alien Resurrection - just awful. I think I've only seen it once. There was some kind of abominable snowman alien, correct? (half human?) I think Joss Wheedon (of Buffy 'fame') wrote the screenplay? Worse than Alien 3.

So do I bother with AvP?

There was more, especially before the stealth edits, which is why it's often important to pay attention to the quoted parts as well. Do you really want to spend another two hours (I watched) <s>reading</s> skimming the thread again to pick up another tidbit?

Hell, you were too oblivious to even notice the PM alert on this forum. Don't worry, I'll stealth delete it. See that? That's stealth. You weren't even aware of it!

What, you missed where I posted the definition of the word?

You're nowhere close to trying as hard as MlMarkland, despite his descent into 4chan mentality, and part of my instigation was to see what else he would divulge.

You? You're just useless.

No.
Don't.
Never.

I second that. They had to cut it down for a PG-13 rating, and the second wasn't much better.

Do so, if only to see how someone rapes your favourite universe (both of them, in fact)
And just when you think it just COULDN'T get any worse than that, see AvP 2. It's a nightmare come true. There is even a teen love story incorporated.

Whedon just sissied out of the thing. He couldn't even take it like a man.

As for AvP, it depends of you. The movie is definitely mediocre and dumb but it isn't as bad as people claim it is — Doom was significantly worse — and by "people" I mostly mean "fanboïs". Sure, AvP rapes the franchise, but are you not already used to it with the last two movies or can't you just take a dumb action movie for what it is? Characters are conveniently bland enough to be disposable, the story is laughably contrived, and there is just nothing remarkable about the photography, yet the action is entertaining in a decent way, and it's still one of the best cross-over movies, given the level of the genre it's surprising but it also doesn't mean much. AvP is dumb and shallow but entertaining, definitely better than Alien 3 and probably a bit better than Resurection. If you want to see a good Alien movie, go back to the first two and only those; if you want a great action movie, try Terminator 2 or The Seven Samurai, and if you want a great movie that will make you think, try 2001: A Space Odyssey, L'Année Dernière à Marienbad or The Seventh Seal. But if you want a dumb action movie that shouldn't be taken seriously, try AvP.

This thread had some vaguely humerous quote-bending in it until Rosh showed up and turned it into another thread filled with nothing but people BAAAAWWWing at each other.

Doom was awesome don't know what you're on.

Except it had absolutely nothing in common with Doom. And as a Resident Evil IN SPACE it was pretty bad.