New Civ V Expansion Announced: Call Everyone Else Heretics and Fill Their Cities With Spies

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http://kotaku.com/5885161/heres-how-civilization-v-gods--kings-will-reinvent-the-series

And that's why playing with people is way more fun. Also, how will that work in multiplayer? Pops a quiz on the enemy screen, asking him when he is gonna betray me?

Oh man. Civ V is still (most likely) one of the buggiest games ever released, crashing 9 times out of 10, and now there's an expansion instead of an obvious patch?

Yeah ok Shitaxis. This is a sophisticated AI? The AI that was a paranoid schizophrenic in the original V and kept fucking backstabbing you when you built a city too close to its lands? Or even when its script made it build one too close to yours. Ohoho. How is this any different?

I thought they dropped the expansion based model for dlcs? Doesnt matter anyway, I dont know if Ill even bother pirating as civ 5 vanilla was shit.

I doubt this expansion will fix Civ V. Also, civfanatics is overloaded.

Edit: Omg the Kotaku comments. -.-

Civ IV eventually became pretty solid, but this one seems pretty irredeemable.

Oh look, Ghandi's about to flip out and declare war on me...and Nobunaga...and Washington.


Business as usual.

Civfanatics is always overloaded.

Hmm, Kotaku now demands email verification for comments. Oh well, rage-spew averted.

What everybody in this topic wants to say:

Nobody cares about Civ V, where's Alpha Centauri 2, you faggots?

I would settle for expanded Civ 4 too.

Civ 4 sadly lacked zones of control. It was a very important mechanic.

Skyway's right on this one guys, Civ 3 is the best.

I don't care about civ V anymore, but no. Just no.

YOu don't like SMAC?

If SMAC was remade it would have clean, cartoony 3D graphics, Yang would be changed to some white dude in order to not get banned in China, there would be no altitude, terraforming would be replaced with Civ 4's take on tile improvement (building cottages all day - truly an exciting experience) and the new AI would be slower and dumber than the original 12~ year old AI. Also they'd probably remove all of the negative effects from the social engineering options - wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings after all:p

Just what they did with Civ V. "It's unfair to penalize players for their choices, all choices should be rewarding, just in different ways" -some asshole game designer.

Civ4 was way worse at launch than Civ5, IMO. They got a new lead designer for the expansion pack so that's a good start.

Civ4 was buggy and slow at release. Civ5 is a mess of bad game mechanics. They will have to make massive changes to fix the bad game design.

Civ 4 is also full of bad game mechanics. Religion, espionage, tile improvements, single stat units, promotions, etc.

Promotions were not bad decision. They worked fine.

Espionage was pretty shit but I agree with Raghar, promotions were fine. You could calculate their effects easily enough and plan for (and against) them.

Everyone keeps wanting a SMAC remake, which would be nice, but I wouldn't mind a MoO remake either. MoO 1, not the crap that was MoO 2 or 3.

Promotions added micromanagement to a series that was already overloaded with micromanagement.

My main issue with promotions was that they added almost nothing to the game. They were simply way too weak to matter usually and also a no brainer choice so no real way to specialize...