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Game News Mystery solved? "Anonymous industry source" reveals unpaid royalties as reason for BG:EE takedown

Discussion in 'RPG Codex News & Content Comments' started by Infinitron, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. Infinitron RPG Codex Staff Patron

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    Tags: Atari; Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition; Beamdog

    Last month, we learned that due to unspecified "contractual issues" with Atari, former Bioware developer Trent Oster and his company, Beamdog, had been forbidden from independently selling Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition and from developing its sequel. Today, a newspost at GameBanshee seems to finally set the record straight on why exactly this occurred. I quote:

    Two weeks ago we reported that Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition was pulled at Atari's request, and also noted that Atari was selling the title on Steam themselves. Now that we have been contacted by an industry source that requested to remain anonymous, we might know why.​

    Apparently Beamdog hasn't paid Atari the royalties that they were owed, which led the publisher to ask them to pull the title from their services, and delay both Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition's patch and the release of the sequel's remastering.​

    However it has to be noted that the circumstances surrounding this aren't clear at all. Something like Atari informally telling Beamdog that they could delay payment is hardly out of the realm of possibilities, but right now we have no elements to assume that, and this amounts to pure speculation.​

    We contacted both Atari and Beamdog to comment on this. While, as of this posting, Atari hasn't gotten back to us, Beamdog president Trent Oster reiterated that they're working with Atari to resolve this dispute, though he wouldn't confirm or deny whether what we heard from our source is true.​

    We'll let you know if we hear more news, and I'm certain I echo the sentiments of the GameBanshee staff at large when I say my hope is that this gets resolved sooner rather than later.​

    Tsk tsk, Beamdog. I certainly hope this was all a big misunderstanding and not an attempt to make an easy buck off of a dying publisher.
     
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  2. Sensuki Arcane Cuck

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    I'm gonna go with option #2: dodgy beamdog
     
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  3. Diablo169 Arcane

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    They sat there harping on about making Baldur's Gate 3 when they hadn't even paid Atari royalties for the first game. :lol:
     
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    Reading the title, i thought that "Anonymous industry source" was something out of 4chan.

    anyway, i'll agree that
     
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    They fucked Baldur's Gate like a cheap hooker and didn't even pay for it :(
     
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    ehem. i come from the third world country and i have never heard about term pay royalities :? can anyone explain what is that ??
     
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    Sort of like how you have to bribe the cops if you don't want to be arrested for doing nothing wrong.
     
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    Beamdog weren't paying Atari the percentage they owed off of each copy of BG:EE they sold.
     
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    i have an idea
    you want to use that idea to make money
    i say "sure, you can use my idea, but since it's mine, i want a percentage on what you earn"
    that percentage is royalties
    (more or less)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royalties
     
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    Waiting for Trent's butthurt spin on this news. "Waaah, limiting my artistic expression!"
     
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    Reaction on the official forums is awsome


    :what:
     
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    As much as I want them to crash and burn, I see this as being pretty unlikely or some kind of misunderstanding. They had a contract for BG2:EE and I doubt they'd fuck it up by pulling a stunt like this.

    Maybe there's some sort of butthurt from Beamdog about Atari selling the game directly themselves through Steam and other sources, because it was supposed to be a Beamdog exclusive. Who knows?
     
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    got it.. i wonder.. does anyone knows how much atari wanted?? what is usual amount if such think exist anyway?? 1 %, 2 %??
     
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    http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/19702/gamebanshee-update-on-current-situation

    The Muslim Brotherhood supports BG:EE [​IMG]
     
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    So, does anyone know what they actually did to become known as so caring?
     
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    fanbois
    fanbois are retarded by definition
    anything they say is probably not true
     
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    More like 6-12%
    But this is an unusual situation, so I don't know shit about shit.
     
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    Finally, the endorsement I was waiting for. Got to give it a try now, I guess.
     
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    Most companies have the same automated software that generates such replies. FanBot, I think it's called.
     
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    Great news :)
     
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