Making pledges on Kickstarter.com, how does it work.

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This thread is only for discussing questions by people who have no experience with using kickstarter.com

I just made my first investment in a kickstarter and backed Wasteland 2. Although I am sceptic about several things, it would be idiotic not to support this project. I am still on the fence about Shadowrun and Banner Saga.

Since I had used none of their services before, I was concerned how much work this would be. Would it require me to register accounts on services that I dont want (paypal)? Would I have to get through Mastercard / Visa 3D nonsense, provide the passwords which I can never remember for my credit cards? All that awful stuff?

Actually it was a breeze. Even if you are non-US like me, but have an amazon account (and these days not many people will not have one), everything from registering on kickstarter.com to pledging via your amazon account takes only 1-2 minutes.

Currently I don't understand how people will receive their reward. Will they send a serial key and download link once the game is finished? Does anyone have any information?

I just received this email which clarifies things a bit:

Pledge Summary

Amount pledged

$15.00

Reward

Digital Downloable copy of game DRM free for PC or MAC OSX or Linux. This low price only available for those who helped fund. Also your party will start with a unique and quirky skill. (It won't affect game balance.)

Estimated Delivery

Oct 2013

If this project is successfully funded, your card will be charged on:

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When your reward is ready, inXile entertainment will send you a survey via email to request any info needed to deliver your reward (mailing address, t-shirt size, etc).

Yeah, I'm an european bro too. And I'm a bit worried will I really pledge my money and receive what I pledged for, because just the other day, I want to try how the thing works before pledging, and opened a new kickstarter and new amazon account, gave a credit card number, and it says I'm a backer, but the thing is, I don't have any money on that card... So is that just because they will withdraw money when the kickstarter ends, or? Also, should I convert my money on the card with which I intend to pay to dollars, or?

If you use a credit card without money, I guess you will have trouble because with amazon (and actually anywhere else) because either they, or your bank could charge you an extra fee in addition to the 15$ you owe them.

But you can retract your pledge until the kickstarter ends, and I recommend you do that if you have no money.

Here is what amazon sent me:

Greetings from Amazon Payments,

We have received your XXXX authorization to let Kickstarter, inXile entertainment charge you. Details of this transaction are below:

Authorization summary:
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Recipient: Kickstarter, inXile entertainment

Maximum Authorized Amount*: $15.00
For: Pledging $15.00 to Wasteland 2 on Kickstarter.
Payment method: XXXXXXX XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX
Valid From: XXXX
Valid Until: XXXX


* The Maximum authorized amount is the total amount you authorized to be charged to your payment method over the valid payment period. The total amount for all transactions cannot be greater than the maximum amount you authorized.

To view or cancel existing payment authorizations:
1. Log into your Amazon Payments account by visiting *******
2. Click on the "Edit Your Account Settings" link.
3. Select "Change my payment authorizations".
4. Click to select the authorization that you want to view or cancel.

If you need to change the payment method used for a payment authorization, please return to Kickstarter's web site. You should find a link to change your payment method there.

Thank you for using Amazon Payments.

For further information about Amazon Payments please visit our Help pages:
***************

The conversion is no problem. I ordered many times in UK/US and they use the daily exchange rate, only charge a small fee for the exchange.

Are prepaid cards allowed, if yes which ones?

Well I got all the mails that you got, so I guess that's it. Still I'll convert to dollars myself as it suits me.

Do you have an account on amazon? If you ever ordered something from them you probably have that already.

I can not say much about payments, but most credit cards with and without account should be possible.

If you have an amazon account and VISA, Mastercard etc it is really no problem.

Sorry, but I don't know if we are talking about the same thing. Isn't the currency conversion always automatic?

I also thought that's the reason that a European should have a credit card in the first place. For all my inland stuff I use my EC-card which is much cheaper here.

Yeah, it is, thing is I tried it with my debit card. (Or at least I think it's called that in English). So I thought I have to convert to dollars.

Perhaps let us know if it worked. In the past I also had used automatic bank withdrawal on amazon, would like to know if that works too.

Also, think about getting a real credit card. It's really useful once you go abroad, rent cars, etc, not only for ordering games.

I'm more curious to know what will happen if the payment bounces and nothing's done. I forgot to top up my debit card a few times, and Kickstarter would warn me about it. But, in the event someone decides to be an asshole, and back 50% of the project, then cancels his card, things will get ugly. You can work around by starting a 2nd KS, with only 50% of the original goal of course, but yeah. It's going to be an unpleasant and troublesome experience for the other backers and the developer.

Then how the fuck didn't kickstarter warn me that I don't have enough money to support the project on that particular card? Is it because they would take the money anyway and I can go into minus?

No idea mang. You should have gotten the email, and there will be an alert notification at the top of the Kickstarter page if your money didn't go through.

Not directly related this topic, but what happens if the project you participated in funding is delayed? What if the game design is scrapped midway, and they change the game in a way you don't approve? As there is no publisher to keep them on schedule, what's to stop them asking for more money later? I'm sure this is probably answered on the kickstarter website, but it seems rife for abuse; not suggesting that will be the case for wasteland 2, but there are so many game designers out there that can't stick to a schedule as is with the resources from publishers (or lack thereof).

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...ickstarter-that-ran-off-with-the-money.71011/

Thanks for the link. My apologies for derailing the thread.

This is something I was also thinking about. Such things tend to level out with the number of cases, but a certain percentage of payments will not be fullfilled right away. Probably in the same range as in all transactions on amazon.

If you wonder what happens to you if you cannot pay, you shold check the terms of your credit card. This applies to everyting not just kickstarter. I think you will have to pay a processing fee in addition to the money you owe. You will have to pay both one day.

As in all cases when your account is not covered. Check the TOS of your card or wait what happens. But I'm sure Amazon will demand the money from you.

Usually, not having the funds for payment on a credit card is a very costly event. For a $15 charge I would expect a $40 penalty fee. The exact amount depends on your card's fee schedule, as has already been mentioned.

Well no worry guys, I've decided to pledge my money to Wasteland, so no trouble with paying, but I still have dilemmas about Shadowrun, although it seems promising. I'll wait for more information, there is still time. And I will gather experience with paying for Wasteland and maybe post it here? For future reference...

I am also on the fence about this one, but probably I'll pledge.

So basically, you don't get charged unless the minimum required balance to fund the game is reached??

Once the funding is over, if successful (which Wasteland, Shadowrun, and Banner Saga already are) Kickstarter/Amazon will charge you, and you'll get an email letting you know, or you'll get one saying there was a problem and you'll have a limited window to resolve it. Then at some point you'll get a email survey through Kickstarter if they need to know where to send your reward.