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Development Info Magna Mundi gets cancelled

Discussion in 'TCancer News & Content Comments' started by Trash, Jun 18, 2012.

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Tags: Drama; Magna Mundi; Paradox; Universo Virtual

Saddest strategy gaming news of the day is that Paradox has officially pulled the plug on mod turned official project Magna Mundi.

The reasons for cancelling the contract with Universo Virtual include the following:

- Lack of progress; we have seen this project drag on and the code we have gotten has not shown significant improvement for many months. Some old and known problems persists and new ones appear with each delivery.

- Lack of trust; the leadership of UV has given a sunshine version of the project to Paradox and reacted with irritation and anger when we have pointed out obvious problems with the deliveries. It has come to a point where they claim the project is done, and the game is ready for release – despite the many critical issues found and reported on our end.

- Internal strife within the MM team; we have gotten information from members within the MM team desperate to save the project whom report to us that the project lacks active leadership. Key personnel in the project see what Paradox sees but instead gets silenced by the UV leadership.

Ouch.

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Will they approach things Bethesda-style? Release what they have and let the modders fix it?
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I just wonder how buggy it had to be to make even Paradox complain about shitty code.

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Dammit. Was looking forward to this.
Guess it's better to cancel it then to release a broken POS though.
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Yeah it seemed far too ambitious. I remember the dev(s) being here and telling all about it. Hmm. Maybe at least they can put some aspects of it into the base game as a fan mod.

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- Lack of trust; the leadership of UV has given a sunshine version of the project to Paradox and reacted with irritation and anger when we have pointed out obvious problems with the deliveries. It has come to a point where they claim the project is done, and the game is ready for release – despite the many critical issues found and reported on our end.

Seems like pulling the plug was a good call.

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- Lack of trust; the leadership of UV has given a sunshine version of the project to Paradox and reacted with irritation and anger when we have pointed out obvious problems with the deliveries. It has come to a point where they claim the project is done, and the game is ready for release – despite the many critical issues found and reported on our end.

- Internal strife within the MM team; we have gotten information from members within the MM team desperate to save the project whom report to us that the project lacks active leadership. Key personnel in the project see what Paradox sees but instead gets silenced by the UV leadership.

I'm not surprised at all. I've followed the project for quite some time and Ubik has to have one of the biggest egos on the Internet. I have no doubt that he genuinely thinks his turd of a game is a masterpiece.
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The beef is on

Ubik said:

I am just writing this post to let you know that Universo Virtual and myself will answer in the proper legal forum to the weird "cancellation" of the game. I'd also like to make it known the "cancellation" issue is just a detail on everything that's going to be settled there.

I am not going to allow that my name and my credibility are to be placed in jeopardy as they have been for some time now. I intend to come out of this with a big smile in my face and my name clean.

In the following days Universo Virtual legal team will make a public statement about this issue.
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Ubik said:

I am not going to allow that my name and my credibility are to be placed in jeopardy as they have been for some time now. I intend to come out of this with a big smile in my face and my name clean.

almost a cleveian statement there.

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curry said: ↑

The beef is on

Ubik said:

I am just writing this post to let you know that Universo Virtual and myself will answer in the proper legal forum to the weird "cancellation" of the game. I'd also like to make it known the "cancellation" issue is just a detail on everything that's going to be settled there.

I am not going to allow that my name and my credibility are to be placed in jeopardy as they have been for some time now. I intend to come out of this with a big smile in my face and my name clean.

In the following days Universo Virtual legal team will make a public statement about this issue.

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Vaporware is vaporware. What a surprise. You see why every time someone starts on about something that doesn't actually exist, I immediately call shenanigans?
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Wait isn't manga mundi a mod for eu 3??

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So Paradox are the Biowares of Strategy games.
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Yes, but they wanted to make it into its own game. Turns out that this plan wound up being vaporware and they just faked everything and got busted by Pdx for it. Note the conspicuous failure to actually exist.
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Norfleet said: ↑

Yes, but they wanted to make it into its own game. Turns out that this plan wound up being vaporware and they just faked everything and got busted by Pdx for it. Note the conspicuous failure to actually exist.

Thats a bit too harsh. It exists its simply unplayable.

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Yes, and I have an invisible pink unicorn in my garage. The only thing we've ever actually seen are obviously faked videos. We know this because, unless you believe in time travel, videos cannot be made of a thing that doesn't actually exist at the time the video is made. Ergo, the video is fake and there is no evidence that what is depicted actually exists.
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Norfleet are you retarded? Paradox stated they had evaluated and rejected several release candidates of Magna Mundi. You might be able to fake something for the fans, but not for your publisher.

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Ubik said:

In my book, cancelling a game at this stage and in these conditions while demanding back the money used for funding its development for two and a half years, demanding also the engine of the game, continuing to enjoy the ownership of the brand and retaining the possibility of releasing Magna Mundi for you, has a far uglier name than “cancellation”.
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You might be able to fake something for the fans, but not for your publisher.

Obviously not. Why do you think the publisher failed to be convinced by the obvious fakery? They even want their money back. You would, too, if you were promised a thing, and merely got a fake thing.
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I'm 99% sure paradox would have discovered it long ago if UV weren't coding an actual game.

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curry said: ↑

Ubik said:

In my book, cancelling a game at this stage and in these conditions while demanding back the money used for funding its development for two and a half years, demanding also the engine of the game, continuing to enjoy the ownership of the brand and retaining the possibility of releasing Magna Mundi for you, has a far uglier name than “cancellation”.

That's a twist. Things are getting interesting and it would make his claims for a lawsuit reasonable (however it will be settled).

Reading a gamedevelopment contract would be really interesting for me now. Somebody knows if their is something like this available on the net as an example?

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Yeah, they don't want to pay for the work but they still want the product. How Jew.
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Spectacle said: ↑

I'm 99% sure paradox would have discovered it long ago if UV weren't coding an actual game.

And I'm pretty sure this would have been said at any point that it was discovered. I guess their leash wasn't that tight, and the ruse has been finally been uncovered. I point to the continuing lack of actual game.

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