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treave

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Since they accept visiting female pugilists, cant we just ask if they will accept the girls (maybe some of them?) without causing trouble and proceed like A?

You don't have the relationship points or the reputation required for that to succeed.
 

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treave, you've mentioned Qilin's reaction to our - uh, choice of party members and their treatment.
She's actually a bit insecure despite her outgoing personality and confidence, (See: Chapter 2.48, 2.57, 3.2,
among others) and this sort of vulnerability might pop up from time to time as she may feel pressured to retain the spot of number one.
How does Cao'er manage? Qilin has the courage to come clean with her doubts, but Cao'er is a silent type who does not really speak much about what she is thinking, and her decisions are much less open to discussions. I'd rather not have her do something sneakely to boost her standing with us... or have her devise another torture tool token of appreciation.

And while we are at it, did Yifang make progress on our philosophy since our team match? :lol:

Is it time to add mood trackers to our party members' statistics?
 
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You don't have the relationship points or the reputation required for that to succeed.

Xu Jing doesnt, but cant Quilin and Yifang, for example, ask for themselves? It might work.

Also flopped to A in original vote post.
 
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How does Cao'er manage? Qilin has the courage to come clean with her doubts, but Cao'er is a silent type who does not really speak much about what she is thinking, and her decisions are much less open to discussions. I'd rather not have her do something sneaky to boost her standing with us... or have her devise another torture tool token of appreciation.

And while we are at it, did Yifang make progress on our philosophy since our team match? :lol:

Cao'er is actually more amenable to sharing than Qilin is. As long as you don't dump her to go missing for months she'll be fine. Yifang is coming around to understanding your way of thinking. Or rather, taking the blade on her behalf touched her, even if it was an accident.

Xu Jing doesnt, but cant Quilin and Yifang, for example, ask for themselves? It might work.

Qilin is from the Wudu Cult, they're not exactly popular with Shaolin.

Yifang would rather respect the rules, being a former nun herself.

Lingshu is herself a Qingcheng renegade at the moment and can't use her sect's reputation to gain entry. Shaolin would want to stay neutral on this particular matter for now because of what happened at the wedding. She won't object to C, though.

Yunzi is more likely to try and sneak in with a horrible fake moustache.

Edit: But thinking about it, Xuezi could probably come along if you ask, being a child and all.
 
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Cao'er is actually more amenable to sharing than Qilin is. As long as you don't dump her to go missing for months she'll be fine. Yifang is coming around to understanding your way of thinking. Or rather, taking the blade on her behalf touched her, even if it was an accident.



Qilin is from the Wudu Cult, they're not exactly popular with Shaolin.

Yifang would rather respect the rules, being a former nun herself.

Lingshu is herself a Qingcheng renegade at the moment and can't use her sect's reputation to gain entry. Shaolin would want to stay neutral on this particular thing at the moment because of what happened at the wedding.

Yunzi is more likely to try and sneak in with a horrible fake moustache.
I freaking do hope Yunzi sneaks in like that, oh the hilarity that will ensue :) also is she THAT flat that she can pass for a man with that fake stache? :D
 

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Is it possible for Qilin to use acupuncture techniques to make herself look male and come with us? It still might not be a great idea, though, I doubt that she can present as convincing a male disguise as Madam Nie did for Bai Jiutian.
 

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Is it possible for Qilin to use acupuncture techniques to make herself look male and come with us? It still might not be a great idea, though, I doubt that she can present as convincing a male disguise as Madam Nie did for Bai Jiutian.
She got divine PP so i guess she can actually become male... never mind its quite disturbing.
 

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Zhang Jue is a god, why do you limit Zhang Jue's greatness with the illusion of humanity?

I have uttered no blasphemy of any sort. Zhang Jue is of course a god, he has simply chosen to present himself in a form most pleasing to Jing; a scarred, ruggedly masculine slab of beefcake.
 

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She could, but isn't that B?

Not if we bring just Qilin. I assumed that B would also involve the makeup disguises that we used back at Qingcheng rather than acupuncture techniques to form a better disguise overall. Of course, that doesn't really solve the issue of most of the girls, especially Yifang and Song Lingshu, being terrible actresses who can't play convincing dudes. Qilin, on the other hand, knows how to throw her voice well (as seen in Operation: Immortal) and can probably change her mannerisms as well.

Of course, some of the drawbacks of B still remain, but they'd be minimized, at least. There's still a chance we'd get found out even with only Qilin, because fooling martial arts masters of this caliber with acupuncture is rather risky unless you're Madam Nie or Tulu Huodu. Also, it seems to be a rather commonly known fact that we travel with a bunch of women, so it'll definitely be somewhat strange when we show up with some dude who thus far nobody has ever seen:

A lone man travelling with seven girls would attract no end of attention, and as such they have tried to disguise themselves to the best of their ability. With Qilin’s help, Yunzi, Armaiti and Lingshu could almost pass for men from a distance, but there was no helping the others.
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“I’m afraid not. Though the description we were given was of a one-eyed youth travelling with seven girls, and there do not seem to be seven girls here… I think we have still found the right person,” says the woman.

Nevertheless, I just figured that it could be an option on the table, so I wanted to throw it out there. I'm still on A.
 

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It's doable, but not very useful since unless Qilin disguises herself as a monk her forte of poisoning and information gathering can't come into play.

If you're expecting to fight the temple, then she's better off staying a safe distance away while you really cut loose on everything in sight.
 

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Well we want to win over the (former) 'Bro Sects' correct? In that case we have to be willing to treat fairly with them. If things go well with Shaolin that may provide an 'in' with the other uncompromised sects, I suppose we will see.

The girls should stay outside. They should be fine, there are seven of them, four combat specialists and three support characters (for a fairly well rounded group), together they should manage provided none of them go running off on their own.

A
 

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treave, regarding the Shaolin, you've mentioned that they're subsidized by the government (which is why their relationship with the Court is pretty good, I presume), but they didn't seem to get any funding from the Zhang Clan. Why take money from one and not the other? I mean, the Zhang clan is a big part of the Court anyways, Grand Eunuch Wang is Zhang Manlou's godfather, so they seem pretty closely connected.

Also, did Xuxian actually see the Abbot burning the manual?

“No, they didn’t. Abbot Fangci took the pages and burnt them, saying that they should not be practiced at all. They then tried to capture me, but I was so fearful for my life that I punched the Abbot in the face and ran off.” Xuxian looks so despondent and regretful that you pat him on the shoulder.

“Well, we’ll see what can be done. I have a bit of business with Shaolin myself,” you say, which is perhaps partially true, “and I’ll go with you into the temple.”

The new Abbot is probably around the same age as the late Fangzhang, considering that they have the same prefix in their names. I'm hoping that the fact that he's part of the Frathouse Generation and leader of the BRO sects means that he's trustworthy. I think that Elfberserker is right on the money and that the punishment that will be inflicted on Xuxian will probably be to cripple his inner strength. However, if it turns out that the Abbot burned the manual and that the Zhang Clan is the only one that now possesses it, the circumstances might be so extreme that they let things slide with Xuxian.
 
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Hey treave, I have a request. Could we see Jing and/or girls fight from someone else's point of view? Like in Epic when we saw Ean fighting Terasphagos through soldiers guarding the wall or how we saw Senya take out the advance scouts just before Lothal happened?

As for the vote, we don't want to antagonize Shaolin if we can avoid it. So, A.
 

treave

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treave, regarding the Shaolin, you've mentioned that they're subsidized by the government (which is why their relationship with the Court is pretty good, I presume), but they didn't seem to get any funding from the Zhang Clan. Why take money from one and not the other? I mean, the Zhang clan is a big part of the Court anyways, Grand Eunuch Wang is Zhang Manlou's godfather, so they seem pretty closely connected.

Also, did Xuxian actually see the Abbot burning the manual?

Having an official fund allocation from the imperial treasury and getting private donations from the Zhang clan are two different things.

As for the manual pages, Xuxian claims they were burnt on the spot.

Hey treave, I have a request. Could we see Jing and/or girls fight from someone else's point of view? Like in Epic when we saw Ean fighting Terasphagos through soldiers guarding the wall or how we saw Senya take out the advance scouts just before Lothal happened?

Perhaps. We'll see.
 

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There will be no executions, that goes against their teachings.
Why was Xuxian afraid for his life, then? Was he just not thinking straight?

As far as my vote goes, A of course. Shaolin is one of the sects we actually like and get along with. Half the Eight Sects already hate us, we don't need to piss off the other half.
 
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Rex Feral

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I'll be going with A. It wouldn't hurt to be truthful in this case. Besides, if anything could go wrong, it is absolutely beyond any doubt that it will happen. Especially with our luck.
 

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