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The fact that he's one of the Great Fives, for one. That he's a strength-based neiggong specialist that sounds like he knows what to do with our condition, that no one will be able to stop us from going where we want to with him on our side; that being his student will open a lot of doors for us in the unorthodox world later on abd that he'll prepare us and hone our natural talent far more than Yao can. What have we learned in this year we've been with him? Speech, stealing and herbalism and he only gave us one technique, that's it. Let's face facts, Yao's talents are simply in a different area from ours, nothing wrong with that but he's not the best one to help us reach our full potential.

Zhang is. That, and a story of a student rebelling against his batfuck insane and cruel master sounds great.
I suppose I could see it happening if becoming the best martial artist ever is the ultimate goal so important its pursuit overrides everything, including common sense - our fucking arm! Either that or just masochism. But that is not the case here - our man already has a goal, a mission from the Prince. Becoming a good martial artist is perhaps a means to that end. But apart from potentially becoming better at fighting, what advantage does becoming a one-armed apprentice to a psycho master whose apprentices are dropping like files have over our current situation for this goal? Will we have more opportunity to gather info - doubtful. More freedom to pursue our mission - very doubtful. Less risky - yeah, right. No, we are better off with Yao. He may be a healer, but we are not even close to his level when it comes to fighting and there is still much he can teach us. Later we can find somebody better (and preferable relatively sane) to teach us more. There is no pressing need to jump at the first psycho asshole just because he is good at kicking ass.
 

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The psycho thinks he can solve the qi problem though. Something Yao admits he cannot. Maybe this psycho would actually prove more useful than Yao?
 

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We also have a poisoner close at hand. She might know how to counteract Yao's poison.

At least I suspect someone in this manor does. If Jing survives that long.
 

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I'm not giving up our arm, fuck that, but if we get the poison cured then we won't lose the arm, Quiling may be able to help since she brews poisons for shits and giggles.
I'm not saying "Do it now!" That's a plan for later, first we need to become a fellow here and pay off our debt to Yao, no way I'm skipping out on him like that.

But I strongly disagree with your assessment of the benefits, Zhang is better for us by far in every department. Besises, we'll need to be as badass as we can be in a fight to tackle the enemies Shun sent us after and no one can teach Jing better. Yao simply isn't the best teacher for that, we will only be mediocre under him and mediocrity will get us killed.
Zhang's also capricious so we'll definitely get to travel a lot and meet interesting people.

We're getting way off topic, though. I think Esquilax is right in that we must know about the Lady, something tells me that these challenges are individual events meant to show that the contestant is worthy to be a Fellow. We also attracted Zhang's eye, like it or not, so we have to be better prepared to deal with him and for that we need to know more about him. The rest we can find out easily after we get into the inner circle, that should be our goal now.
 
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The psycho thinks he can solve the qi problem though. Something Yao admits he cannot. Maybe this psycho would actually prove more useful than Yao?
That might be a possibility, yes. But I fear that even if he can his price is just too damn high. And if our condition is important (and it is), I suggest that we start researching it right now when we have an opportunity. Surely there are other options we can pursue for that apart from this Martian.
 

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More like "definitely," our unique qi is one of the two reasons his interest was sparked. And he didn't want to tear off our arm just for the lulz, it's because of the poison that's in it, he wants us as his apprentice that much.

Remove the poison and problem solved. And travelling with the greatest unorthodox badass will definitely open doors in the world.
 

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I wouldn't mind going and seeking out the Southern Maniac when the time comes; unless he is possessive and forces our hand now, I don't think he would mind that. The question is whether any of the choices here will help us regarding that, as well as our other goals. The Speech lesson might help, as might 3A...
 
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Wait, Zhang went along with the poet?


Also, I would't mind being trained by Zhang, but I want to repay our debt to Yao first. Xu Jing is a man of his word and pays his debts (also, leave in good terms with Cao'er :love: )!

There's also the fact Zhang seems to be called a maniac for a pretty good reason, as we saw. Told you niggers the guy was creepy. He may have our solution, but something within me feels this good is bad news, kids.
 
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More like "definitely," our unique qi is one of the two reasons his interest was sparked. And he didn't want to tear off our arm just for the lulz, it's because of the poison that's in it, he wants us as his apprentice that much. Remove the poison and problem solved.
I'm pretty sure that removing the poison was only partially the motivation behind his attempt to tear us to pieces like that. The other part ("Then, his smile turns into a wicked grin. “You will be my next apprentice. I have just run out of living ones.") is that he doesn’t really care about apprentices (or anyone else for that matter) that much either. I wonder what other prices we would have to pay to be his apprentice.

And travelling with the greatest unorthodox badass will definitely open doors in the world.
And close at least as much. One of the things we would lose is inconspicuousness.
 

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But gain access to a lot of seedy places and organizations. Traveling with Yao isn't inconspicuous either, right now we have a rep as the Thieving, Murdering Apprentice. Our performance here will also spread, the time of ambiguity is over.

Also, I think the casualty rate for his apprentices is high because they couldn't withstand his training, not because he deliberately killed them.
 

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Just want to point out that this is going around asking about Zhang. Seems to me that won't net us much more than rumors about how nasty he is since nobody was willing to approach him.
 

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Good point, people like him and the Proprietress have larger-than-life legends around them, so we'll probably get a collection of stories and hearsay, kinda like what the beggar did with our story at Songfeng ("The apprentice defends his beautiful physician" my ass).
Still thosr stories will have a grain of truth in them, enough that we should be able to infer something. Considering that we're heading to the inner courtyard with Quiling, I think we'd better know something about the resdidents.
 

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I don't know, going around with only one arm is pretty badass and stories would start to spread. We should get that removed even if we go ahead and get the poison removed.
 

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Nah, let's keep the hand. Might get difficult when we have to climb walls and scratch our nose at the same time, while swinging a sword with our feet.
 

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He wasn't talking very loudly, and everyone had by then retreated to at a very safe (far) distance, so you don't have reason to believe everyone heard clearly what he said about your qi. Perhaps some sharper ears picked it up, but definitely not all.
 

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I think we're much more likely to get scraps than actual useful information about Lady Ji, the Southern Maniac, and the trials. So I'm going to vote for the two most important things:
V (our qi) and VI (our mission)
I also think we'll need a silver tongue while our martial skills are weak. 2A
Finally, I'm willing to risk getting in trouble. I think 3A won't be what gets us potentially caught, but rather the subsequent choice(s). 3A
 

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Nice job, retards. Now we have the insane incarnation from PST another obscenely powerful lunatic after us.

Seriously, it'd be awesome to be his apprentice, provided we can keep our arm.

III. The Ten Great Swords. That's part of why we came here.
V
. Your strange qi condition, though you do not reveal that you have it. So we don't have to lose our arm.
A. (Speech +3) Useful for diffusing the myriad of bad guys you morons will inevitably piss off in the future.

A - How could we refuse?
 
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Flip to III, VI, A, A.

I agree with ScubaV but think we won't find out too much about the qi either - "hey do you know anything about people whose qi is so fucked up they will explode?" Sure we might get some kind of lead to a qi expert or stories of people with similar conditions, but it's a long shot, whereas with III and VI I think we're closest to being sure of learning some new things.
 

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treave, how would sleight-of-hand work if we only have one arm? :lol:

I'm pretty sure that removing the poison was only partially the motivation behind his attempt to tear us to pieces like that. The other part ("Then, his smile turns into a wicked grin. “You will be my next apprentice. I have just run out of living ones.") is that he doesn’t really care about apprentices (or anyone else for that matter) that much either. I wonder what other prices we would have to pay to be his apprentice.

As Baltika9 said, we were never inconspicuous due to traveling with the infamous Killing Physician and greasing the heir of the Songfeng sword school in a duel to the death, so that's not the issue.

Right now, I would agree that it's not worth it to go with the Southern Maniac based on his terms: we lose our arm and abandon Cao'er like that. I know we've agreed that our character is going to be pragmatic and willing to do a lot of questionable things to serve the Prince, but Jing still values loyalty and I'm rather fond of her.

However, in general, we simply aren't going to find a better teacher anywhere - this guy is fucking perfect, he fits our style like a glove. He'll know how to utilize our chaotic qi to our advantage rather than our detriment, plus he is a strong, physical guy with a scholarly lean, much like our protagonist. I like Master Yao, but come on, you must admit that his abilities are more suited to someone like Cao'er than they are to Jing.

Oh, and as for all of his apprentices dying, that was very probably less out of outright malice and more to do with the apprentices themselves not measuring up to his insane standards. I think that this bears repeating:

The more close shaves you get into and survive, the faster you learn. That's how your unorthodox life is going to be.

He's an unorthodox master, what did you expect? This is how they teach. Yes, we ought to consider carefully what being his apprentice entails, but this guy is one of the greatest martial artists in China and he is perfectly suited to fulfilling our potential; we would be fools to dismiss someone like Zhang out of hand like that.
 

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Just want to point out that this is going around asking about Zhang. Seems to me that won't net us much more than rumors about how nasty he is since nobody was willing to approach him.

Isn't that the case with a lot of them? II seems the most remote in terms of good information, as nobody knows what the criteria is. I still like I, because while Lady Ji is enigmatic, knowing more about her could at least provide a guideline as to what sort of person she is, and in turn, what sort of person she might want as a member of Luoying Manor. As for asking about Zhang, I can think of lots of information that we could reliably get: how long he's been a member of the inner court, what he's doing here right now, that sort of thing. We would get a few tall tales, I'm sure, but there's a kernel of truth there too.

I'm reluctant to pick V because it's a strange thing to ask these people about, and V is just as questionable in terms of info as I and IV are. That being said, I suppose we could justify the question due to the fact that we're a Physician's Apprentice who would naturally be curious about this sort of thing. Nevertheless, I feel that we've been given an interesting alternative by Zhang: all this time, we've been thinking about our qi condition with the intention of curing it - getting rid of it. Zhang, on the other hand, sees it as a gift; I find that pretty interesting.

Out of all the choices, the most reliable information that we'd get would probably be III and VI. There are lots of scholars here who have a keen interest in history, so I'm sure we'd get something out of them with III. Information on Yuhua Hall would be readily available too: this is an opulent Manor that has all sorts of weirdos as members, we'd definitely find more about the woman that tried to kill the Prince with VI, and it'll probably be trustworthy.

However, neither of these are really relevant to our current situation. I mean, it's good, yeah, but if we're a member, we'll get to pick everyone's brain on these sort of things anyways. That's why I think we shouldn't put the cart before the horse: get a membership, then ask them about all this stuff, not the other way around.

V. Your strange qi condition, though you do not reveal that you have it. So we don't have to lose our arm.

Learning about our qi condition has nothing to do with losing our arm. That's all related to the poison - we cure the poison, we don't lose the arm if/when Zhang encounters us after the conference.

Look, we really need to find stuff relevant to us in terms of getting into Luoying Manor in the first place instead of all this other stuff. We have a lunatic who wants to capture us four days from now, I think we ought to know more about him, even if it happens to be that a lot of it is half-truth. Dude, there's a near-unanimous vote to follow the scholar near the inner court, I think we ought to at least know about the inhabitants a bit if we're going to be sneaking along their turf.
 
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You can pick a pocket with one arm, no problem. Losing an arm would affect your physical stats though.
 

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For the better, undoubtedly. With only one arm to practice the use of, we shall create the strongest arm that has ever lived!
 

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Trogdor the Burninator seemed to do just fine with one beefy arm.

But seriously, losing an arm is right out, and we should pay our debt to Master Yao. He may well let us go, if that's what we want to train with the Southern Maniac. I'm not decided on who we should choose for our master, if the choice comes up.
Seems the scholar and his two cronies are working for the prefect against the manor. Thwarting then could go a long way towards gaining entrance. I could be persuaded to change my II vote to I or IV, but we really need to take the opportunity to learn about the woman in black. She's a threat to the Prince.
 

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ERYFKRAD - III,V / C>A / A
The Brazilian Slaughter - III,V / A>B / A
Smashing Axe - II,V / B>A>C / B
Kipeci - I,VI / A / A
Storyfag - III,V / A / A
Ifeex - III,V / A / A
Baltika9 - I,VI / A / A
Grimgravy - II,VI / B / A
TOME - IV,V / A / A
Jester - I,V / B / A
Zero Credibility - V,VI / B>A>C / A
Kashmir Slippers - III,IV / B>D>A / A
Esquilax - I,IV / A / B
XenomorphII - V,VI / A / A
Tigranes - III,VI / A / A
Azira - I,IV / A / A
Bloodshifter - III,V / A / A
ScubaV - V,VI / A / A
Lambchop19 - I,II / A / A
Nevill - III,V / A / A

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Current tally:

Information choice:
I - 6
II - 3
III - 8
IV - 4
V - 12
VI - 7

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Skill choice:

A - 14
B - 5
C - 1
D - 0

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Busybody choice:

A - 18
B - 2
 
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