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Elfberserker

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I am betting on everything that we find surivors at attack site. We need more people before we can do anything. Huge gamble with lot of unknown factors, but I am willing to take risk
 

Nevill

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What would survivors even do there? The place is no more.

We just killed a man to keep our identity secret, and now, instead of utilizing this advantage and walking inside the fortress in broad daylight we are smelling sunflowers on some wild goose chase while the captives are being prepared for their trip to the west or worse. Really, now?

What do we even need more people for? What do you expect of them? We aren't going to attempt a frontal assault, are we?
 

treave

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Well, since you guys seem rather split about this I'll give it another day before updating. :D
 

Nevill

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I guess this is my last ditch attempt to lay down the rationale behind my choice.

It is imperative to let Changfeng know that there are people here that are on her side. There are too many things that can go wrong if we don't:
- She might attempt escape, and get killed in the process. It is much better to go down fighting if you think that you are going to die either way.
- She might end her life. Even though this development is unlikely, given what we know of her character (her hate should carry her through the ordeal), there is a limit how much abuse a human can take if there is no hope.
- She might refuse to cooperate with her captors and provoke them - with foreseeable results. If she knows she is getting out soon, she can allow herself to stall the interrogators.
- She might get transferred and would not leave us a clue as to where, because she doesn't know anyone would be looking.

I think people have agreed about the importance of having everyone on the same page when devising a plan. Now that our plan is to speak with Changfeng about the events that transpired 3 years ago - and we would probably need to get her out of the prison first - don't you think it would be a good idea to update her on the current development, unless you want your carefully laid plans to be ruined?

If she is getting moved, it is not going to be a sea resort she ends up at - it will be a place which is equally well fortified, if not better. Political criminals were guarded way better than the ordinary ones at all times. I can think only of two reasons why she can be transferred elsewhere instead of being kept in the fortress or straight up murdered - she is either going to be executed publicly, or tortured for some sensitive information. In both cases she is likely to be guarded by people that are directly affiliated with the Empire, and thus have much more resources at their disposal that a single clandestine assassin group.

That is even excluding the possibility of her being outright killed. For example, if they are looking for the leader and Changfeng knows where she is, the captors would keep her alive, but if the leader is found, there would be no more use for Liu - this is just one example where time can be of the essence. If we knew she was kept there for two weeks, maybe we could afford to spend another one searching for clues, but she literally just arrived here. There is absolutely no telling what will happen the next day, not to mention after four or five more.

We have earned a certain amount of goodwill with Yu, saving his life, buying him out of his debt, and pandering to his anarchistic views and spiritual hobbies. If something happens to Liu because of our hesitation that I can't really justify, all of this is going to be for naught. And you can't even blame him, everyone would be royally pissed if their girlfriend was sold to slavery or tortured to death while they were dragged on a field trip by their leader.

As for D, once we get Yu inside the prison, it opens a vast sea of possibilities to us. Sure, his conversation with Liu will be supervised, and he is unlikely to say anything meaningful to her, nor get anything useful out of her in return. But he has a magical umbrella with him, and no one in their right mind would suspect it to be haunted. No one would - or even could - supervise a ghost. If Yu mentions something about not needing to be afraid of the next world or something similar to prepare Changfeng for the meeting with Xiaoqing, it opens up a way of communication with the prisoner. If there are clues at the site where the battle took place that can help us free her, Liu will give us its coordinates and spare us a week long trip back and forth. If there are remnants of the sect that can help break her out, she will provide us with the information necessary to get in touch with them. She might provide information about her leader if there is something that she needs to report. She might provide the number of the fighters the Society has, or the identity of Imperial spies within their ranks. Finally, if things are urgent, Xiaoqing can provide assistance in breaking Liu out by sucking the life essence out of guards. It's not like assassins have a priest with them. I wonder if she is corporeal enough to be able to toss Liu the keys from her cell. The personal ghost we got is just so awesome, I'd hate to see her potential go to waste.

There is a goldmine of information that you can make use of, waiting to be tapped right here, under your nose. To risk it for something that you aren't even sure what it is and spend a week blindly bumbling around the forest is just folly.
 
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Tigranes

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Alrigfht, the whole Ghost Communique Plan works for me. I can flop, I'm just worried about how we'll gain entry and what we'll need to reveal about ourselves to do so.... if we even get to see her.
 

Nevill

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We just tell them that we are the apprentice of Zhang Jue (that will get their attention for sure without revealing too much about us) and our friend here wants to say goodbye to Liu. Or to rub her face in her defeat, we have no idea. As might be expected from Zhang Jue's apprentice, we might murder someone horribly for them later. Actually, we are feeling kind of bored, so they'd better point out their target, or we might start murdering at random to entertain ourselves.

We have a crazy enough reputation to pull that off. I doubt they would see harm in a scholar talking to her if he will be under their heavy surveilance, and that's ok with us, because we do not intend to communicate with Liu through him anyway, not yet. The rest is up to Yu and Xiaoqing.
 

Azira

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Does Jing have a reputation as a killer? How many confirmed kills does he have to his name, that have been witnessed?

No kills during the tournament. We don't know if anyone died in the ninja/pirate debacle.

How many confirmed kills? What Jing does have is a seriously unorthodox reputation. And that's about it.
 

Nevill

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Azira said:
How many confirmed kills?
Why do we have to have confirmed kills? Who is going to confirm them? Do we have to bring a lawyer to get hired for an assassination?

No one knows how many confirmed kills Zhang had. No one counted. Why would we be any different from him, after all the stunts we pulled?

We are a badass fighter, we are apprenticed by the vilest murderer around. Those are facts. Not much confirmation besides this is needed for the orthodoxes to despise us, why would it be any different for the unorthodoxes?
 

Baltika9

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Lolwut? The rep of a total unscrupulous scoundrel, and the rep of a dude that fought off an invasion all by himself. Treave did state, mate-wise, that some people did die on the island, though he provided no numbers. Don't worry, we're known as a btshit insane dude through the lands. Our rep and favors will get us a foot in the door, the rest is up to Yu.
 

Azira

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we might murder someone horribly for them later. Actually, we are feeling kind of bored, so they'd better point out their target, or we might start murdering at random to entertain ourselves.

I should've been more precise and pointed to this bit. I agree that Jing has a reputation, but it seems the white knighting fella we ditched out on has an even more fearsome fighting reputation. I remember treave stating as much. And remember, this was the young martial artists competition Jing won.

Compared to grown fighters, Jing is of repute, but not someone to make you quake in your boots, if you actually have a rep of your own.
When it comes to unnamed gooks though. Those I have no doubt Jing can terrify. Just don't expect the leaders of the sects to prostrate themselves in front of Jing. Yet.
 

Nevill

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The problem is to get before the leaders. The regular mooks will be scared shitless of us, and we can coerce them to escort us to their better. Those are wise enough to see the potential usefulness of having us indebted to them (hahaha), and the price they would have to pay for that is miniscule.

I can see it working pretty well.
 

Kipeci

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Just don't expect the leaders of the sects to prostrate themselves in front of Jing. Yet.

Didn't Jing beat down a few of the leaders of some minor sects near the end of the 100 man match?
 

Nevill

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So, uh, treave... are 3 votes decisive enough for us to get the update? :)

There were no changes for the last 6 hours.
 

Anabanana

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I find it hilarious that treave is one of the most consistent, fast writers I've ever seen and people still keep on bugging him for more. Chill, dudes, the update will be out when it's out. Trust in our CYOA overlord!

/says the person who refreshes Codex Playground every five minutes or so
 

a cut of domestic sheep prime

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I find it hilarious that treave is one of the most consistent, fast writers I've ever seen and people still keep on bugging him for more. Chill, dudes, the update will be out when it's out.
This. Honestly, treave has done more writing on these let's plays than I ever could have expected. He's literally writing novels here. (Actually, I really think he should try and retool these as novels or manga or something. I almost seems a waste to do all this creative writing and then forget about it - especially with Epic.)
 

Nevill

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For some reason, I am imagining them as visual novels. It just fits.

I miss the music from the second part of EPIC. This was a great way to set up the mood.
 

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