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Anime Let's Unbox Boxes in Wasteland 2! (The End)
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C'mon man. Think about it, the siege tower is just too damn good.
Attack range is 4 tile (Insane when combined with Infantry Ambush/Cover)
Cost 1000 G. (Need at least 2000 cause the chance of suffering full wipe is 0)
Assemble/Disassemble 10 AP cost. (Too low. Double it imo)
Movement is 10 AP per tile. (That's slow, but still, the range make it very rarely move)
What's crazier is that Ranged attack cost 1 less AP when deployed. That makes no fucking sense man!
I'd say the solution is to lower the dmg when tower is deployed, simply because you cannot have as many men shooting from when you're on the ground. Around 30-40% reduced damage probably. And make it doubly vulnerable to Fire tactic.
Attack range is 4 tile (Insane when combined with Infantry Ambush/Cover)
Cost 1000 G. (Need at least 2000 cause the chance of suffering full wipe is 0)
Assemble/Disassemble 10 AP cost. (Too low. Double it imo)
Movement is 10 AP per tile. (That's slow, but still, the range make it very rarely move)
What's crazier is that Ranged attack cost 1 less AP when deployed. That makes no fucking sense man!
I'd say the solution is to lower the dmg when tower is deployed, simply because you cannot have as many men shooting from when you're on the ground. Around 30-40% reduced damage probably. And make it doubly vulnerable to Fire tactic.
Elfberserker
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What is this nonsense I am seeing here!?
We knew that path to yellow turban rule was that one of hardship and POWAHGAMING and now you fuckers want to throw all those sacrifieces away!?
We have gone too far into powergaming to stop now!
We have sacrifieced too much to stop.
I say we we rack up powergaming up to 11 and make those dead comrades proud, when we finally rule whole china.
We knew that path to yellow turban rule was that one of hardship and POWAHGAMING and now you fuckers want to throw all those sacrifieces away!?
We have gone too far into powergaming to stop now!
We have sacrifieced too much to stop.
I say we we rack up powergaming up to 11 and make those dead comrades proud, when we finally rule whole china.
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B-but they had crossbows as far back as 600 B.C, giant catapult versions by 500 B.C., and the repeating variant by about 400 B.C!lol. in 190 AD?!
Fuck that.
Sauce: Wikipedia
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Nah, that's just the specific tactic this fella used with his repeating crossbows. The randomness is because he had the horses charge wildly into the enemy, shooting all around them. Point is, they actually have had this shit for quite some time.
I do agree that siege tower OP though.
I do agree that siege tower OP though.
I can't think of a counter, last night I try pitting myself against Cao Cao who had a Siege Tower when I'm Liu Bei in that lone city.
If you don't have a siege tower of your own and doesn't outnumber your opponent, you're simply shit out of luck.
If you don't have a siege tower of your own and doesn't outnumber your opponent, you're simply shit out of luck.
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They're still commanded by officers, and can be subject to plots and tricks. There's no real hard counter to them that I've found short of just closing the distance however you can and charging them in melee.
If you have rattan troops, those work great against bow units.
If you have rattan troops, those work great against bow units.
Year 197
Year 197 Month 4
Repelling that attack force from Chang An didn't dent their manpower as much as we hoped.
They're still capable of fielding 160,000 troops when defending.
Shang Dang on the other hand, is just buying time.
Their small city populace meant there's no replacement for their dead men. We're just going to have to bleed them slowly.
While I wait for the troops to replenish and drills to complete, I decided to study some more in Luo Yang's excellent academy.
Year 198
Folks, we have a target of opportunity.
Our spies in Ye have revealed that Liu Yan lacks capable officers to control his two cities. We're going to take advantage of that by sending an attack force.
That's too bad. Men! Let's get to work.
Alright, there shouldn't be any men in charge of the defense - let's siege!
Wait what. There's someone in charge?!
Apparently they've finished their personnel transfer while we were en route.
And here I thought I was gonna get bored!
They're still capable of fielding 160,000 troops when defending.
Shang Dang on the other hand, is just buying time.
Their small city populace meant there's no replacement for their dead men. We're just going to have to bleed them slowly.
While I wait for the troops to replenish and drills to complete, I decided to study some more in Luo Yang's excellent academy.
Year 198
TigerKnee
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The rule of attacker is pretty simple, you must either annihilate the whole defender (city) forces OR destroy the council hall OR capture the Commander. Reinforcements cannot act as garrison force once the primary defenses are destroyed.
For the defender to succeed, they must either hold the city for 30 days OR eliminate the enemy Commander OR the entire attacking forces.
Two weeks later...
Time to learn Blunder.
Blunder is an excellent skill that can fool 2 adjacent enemy units into attacking each other.
Sub-unit officers are 70% as good as their Commander. So if you have Lu Bu... and assign 5 units under him, you'll have 5x 70% Lu Bu's on the field! HOWEVER - should Lu Bu conspire with the enemy, ALL of them will switch side as well! And they will inherit Lu Bu's vulnerability to schemes and taunts. It's best to assign a versatile officer like Xiahou Yuan with LDR 90 and INT 70 as the Commanders. One major weakness of the sub-units is that they do not have access to any tactics abilities except to extinguish fires and they have the lowest move priority regardless of their LDR.
The success rate is determined by the troops experience and morale. Obviously, 100% morale isn't sufficient. The only way to get above 100% is to win more battles. Taking losses will decrease morale, seeing an allied unit wipe will also decrease morale. To increase morale in battle, you need to Rally or wipe out enemy units.
The skill description doesn't do it justice - it simply allows a unit to ignore zone of control when making its move. Allowing it to come into contact with the enemy and continue moving on. Very situational, but useful to have.
Rams are insanely strong vs. structures. They deal 250 dmg per hit minimum. Other than that, they're utterly useless and vulnerable to any type of attacks.
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