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XenomorphII

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wait, what? you died without heirs?

No I resigned. I just wanted to show the end game screen.

Though *Spoiler for the next update alert*:


I may be about to have that problem.
 

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"Knock Knock"
"Who's there?"
"Bump."
"Bump who?"
*witty punchline*
 

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XenomorphII

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Update 34-Storm on the Horizon

With the war over, I rally together some of my African forces to go around and smash rebels. I also decide to spend some coin:

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As my troops move to deal with rebels I notice something:

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That poor son of a bitch. He's got another round of rebellions starting.

I am quite pleased however, as now I feel like I can move on Genoa without being attacked by him.

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More conversions!

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And the situation continues to unravel for the Caliph. That poor bastard.

Since he is occupied at the moment I decide to:

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Take Genoa!

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Croatia decides to back me up. I am only going to use the Italian forces for this, as my vassals are getting pretty upset with their levies being constantly in use.

The army:

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The battle:

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We win, but Kallinikos gets wounded again. We pursue and destroy the enemy.

While we do that I receive more news:

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Yet another conversion!

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And another not long after.

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And another, while waiting on our siege.

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A siege is won.

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And the war is won.

Now Genoa's capital is a city. So I want to revoke the title of the guy that has the castle so that I do not receive the wrong holding penalty and can keep Genoa for myself for now. I take a peak at my vassals to see if I can get away with it:

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I think I can afford the -20 to relations. So:

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And bam! It is done:

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Alrighty. All those cities should bring me lots of money. I won't be creating the ducal title anytime soon to avoid the too many held duchies modifier.

I think I will probably take it easy for a bit now. I have been waging lots of wars lately, and my vassals are pretty upset (though only the Doux of Benevento is considering revolting) and my country could probably use a break.

My chancellor is sent to Venice at this point.

Anyway, at some point my youngest daughter came of age so I marry her:

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To one of my courtiers.

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I really need to stay at peace for awhile, but they are making it really hard right now. It would be so easy to grab Alexandria (probably).

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We get an event it leads to:

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That's nice. Though I am already really pious.

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My castle in Genoa needs to be improved. A lot.

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Despot Kallinikos passes away. For some reason our primary title becomes Africa.

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I switch back to Sicily. (Though it took me another switch to Africa and then back to Sicily to get it to work. Maybe because I didn't unpause?)

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Rebellion time!

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We are now Queen Pavlina and she wants her husband dead so she can get a younger, more fertile man.

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Because if we don't get some more kids, things could go badly.

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That is our only daughter, Iouliana. She was being tutored by her grandfather, but now I send her to our cousin because he has high diplomacy.

PS. I am only using my personal levies to put down the rebellion. Benevento is pretty weak, and I don't need to agitate the rest of my vassals right now if it can be helped.

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Our cousin backs up our plot. So:

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We take him out. Now to get the upgrade and some babies (hopefully).

I settle on:

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Mostly because he is young and Greek. I though about setting up a betrothal between my queen and the heir to the kingdom of France, but it is highly unlikely that they would agree to a matrilineal marriage. Also I would have to wait a few years for him to come of age, and my queen doesn't have that kind of time, as she is already 35.

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Money from the marriage and a rebellion in Africa. This one will require more than my personal levies.

That's this update. I may end up losing this yet. Not because of military defeat, but because my main dynasty line is going to die out.
 

Tigranes

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It wouldn't be too bad for your one daughter to inherit the kingdom, as long as you could keep the rebellions in check, no? She'd have plenty of time to birth children. What you don't want is the current queen hitting 40, 45, or whatever they designate as menopause in the game, then rule for decades more without a son.

Probably a sign to halt the conquest for a decade or so now, though.
 

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I still think you should use Africa as you main title, seeing how that's where most of your kingdom is.
 

Norfleet

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That's this update. I may end up losing this yet. Not because of military defeat, but because my main dynasty line is going to die out.
Isn't it acceptable to be inherited by a cousin or other more distant relative, as long as that person is part of your dynasty? Are none of them part of the succession?
 

Commissar Draco

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i didnt know you can switch titles, you click somewhere in the Realm screen?

You can go to your character's screen, click on the title you want to be your main and then click on the "make primary" button than should be near the top of the box.

But only titles of same rank can be chosen.... And Rome is not even Duchy in CK2... Would be cool to create titular Kingdoms for jewgold send to Basileus, HRE Emperor or Pope.... BTW she has some Uncles or cousins? in My game Spartenos sit in Three Kingdoms. 16 themas and 25 baronies... Plus they were Emperors twice.
 
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Achtung! You will want to keep Genoa and Venice under your direct control even with the wrong type penalty... Because having vassals above barony level of a different type is a whopping -25 penalty to relations with them!

The alternative is to give the county to a baron with a castle holding the province, this will make the castle the primary holding thus eliminating the relation modifier for wrong government type.
 

XenomorphII

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Update 35-Rebellion!

As I move to try to deal with the rebels:

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The Duke of Benevento calls in supporters for his bid for the throne. Tangiers, Calabria, and Apulia are all in rebellion now too.

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And some more join him. This is why you should never ever give family members land.

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I beat the army of the traitor. Now to take his territory and end the major rebellion.

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And another rebellion. Part of my problem is that Pavlina has an abysmal 7 diplomacy, and that I have -20 relations from having a female ruler and a female heir (-10 for each). I should never have married Kallinikos to a duchess in an attempt to gain territory. It is a terrible thing to have your heirs outside your court and your control.

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I hire mercs.

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They are too late though. I may lose this. More mercs are hired. As they engage the rebels:

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The loss of cruel would help Pavlina and us out some, but we do not get lucky, and she keeps cruel and does not become kind.

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We take Benevento.

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Another siege is won, and our sister has a son. She is so much more qualified to be queen, because she was actually groomed by us not the retarded AI.

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Some more assaults are won, but my army is all but gone now.

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I opt for a white peace, as the Muslims are moving against the breakaway duchies in Africa and I don't want to have to try to retake them.

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We carry out some assaults:

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And our rebel is ready for a white peace.

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Another little piece is returned into the fold. My army goes to put down the peasant rebellion, then packs up for Western Africa were one of the early rebels is still rebelling. They also get to stop along the way to put down peasants.

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As they move to their destination, another province converts.

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Another conversion, and my rebelling vassal managed to sneak an army into Italy and take a holding at Benevento. He will soon be dealt with though.

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We retake our territory.

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Then we crush the rebels.

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Oh, please let it be a boy. *fingers crossed*

After his levies are destroyed a few more times:

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Peace. Now to try to figure out how to prepare, so that when those peace treaties expire in ten years these asses don't all rebel again.

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THANK YOU! Ahhhhhh. This should help calm things down. +10 relations with all vassals.

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It may hurt my income, but I decide to do away with the feudal tax for now in order to boost my relations with my vassals.

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It doesn't take them long to agree to this measure.

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And then our husband dies. He was ill, so this may just be natural not anything funny.

We remarry to this guy:

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Mostly because of his high diplomacy, which should also help our situation out.

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I take the money. It will be used to develop my personal holdings.

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I want to make the castle the main holding there instead of the city so I try to take the title from the Lord Mayor. Note that since he rebelled early, I can take the title without pissing my other vassals off.

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He agrees.

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The next time that Ancona rebels, I will take it for myself.

Development time:

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I really need to have more personal troops. Right now I can get almost 4k. For a kingdom that is as large as mine, I would like to have around 6-7k as it makes rebellion stomping much easier. However my next development goal will probably be training centers since they increase the armies starting morale and reinforcement rate.

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At this point I notice that while wives help their husbands with their state attributes, husbands do not help their wives. I wonder if that is intended or an oversight? Anyway the point is that marrying that high diplo guy, was kinda pointless except that he is our chancellor now.

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Hohohoho! I take it! Don't know if I will pursue it though at the moment.

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I decline the loan. I will just wait.

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A province converts!

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And another.

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Another chance to ditch cruel. It fails to happen though.

An event:

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Not sure what this one might end up doing, as I don't think I have seen it before. I opt for the relations gain now though.

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Not long after that, and after dealing with some rebels in Rome, our daughter comes of age. Holy crap look at that diplomacy! Again this is why you should always make sure your heirs are in your court, because you will make them turn out like this, while the AI will make them turn out like this:

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A Comparison between the two:

Queen Pavlina: D-7, M-7, S-4, I-12, L-10. Age:40. Traits:Dutiful Clerk (I=-1, L=+3), Scholar (L=+2), Patient (I=+1, D=+1, S=+1, L=+1), Proud (monthly prestige

+.5), and Cruel (I=+1, D=-1).

Princess Iouliana: D-26, M-8, S-9, I-10, L-11. Age:16. Traits:Grey Eminence (M=-1, I=+2, D=+9, L=+2, Fertility +10%), Stutter (D=-1), Temperate (S=+2),

Gregarious (D=+2), Charitable (D=+3), Honest (I=-2,D=+3), and Brave (M=+2).

Iouliana is pretty much better in every way. Her one big downside is stutter, which I think might carry some nasty hidden effects that are not mentioned (but I don't know for sure).

And that is this update.
 

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Pansy, use my independence_cb!


The only additional effect of stutter is -10 vassal relations in most cases.
 

XenomorphII

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Pansy, use my independence_cb!


The only additional effect of stutter is -10 vassal relations in most cases.

Sorry, but I just don't like that white peace means the breakaways win, because that isn't a white peace at all.

I don't know if it is possible but I would like it if it could be modded so that those that seek independence are the defenders in the war, and they would gain warscore for holding onto their holdings after a certain amount of time (like in holy wars, but much more quickly and after a few years if action has not been taken then bam independent), as that would make sense to me. Basically, I wonder if it is possible to have it so that the liege is on a pretty tight time limit to enforce his claim to lordship over breakaway lands.
 

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Well, it would require complex work, possibly unviable due to hardcoding. Still, the way I could think of would be reform the whole rebellion system to instead fire an event where the liege either gives in or declares war. This is why I prefer the "white peace" modding, it's simpler and reaches largely the same goal in AI behaviour.
 

XenomorphII

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Update 36-Enlightenment Time

It would probably be wise if I were to stay at peace and consolidate. But, if I do that I doubt I will have the time to accomplish my overarching goals, so, in the spirit of "fuck it let's see what happens", I:

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Decide to ruin Venice's day.

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The first wave of our troops that are headed for Venice.

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Arrival. I really expected them to have a nice merc army waiting.

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My second batch of troops. They set sail for Ancona.

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We win. Now they go to join the siege group too.

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Assaults!

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We win. I give the county of Venice to one of the barons that has a castle. Now when he rebels I can take the county for free, lose the wrong holding type penalty, and won't suffer the -20 relations hit for taking his barony now.

Now then. To tidy up our borders:

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This should be easy.

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An army is assembled, and sets sail.

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They will be joining a small force that is already in position.

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They picked a bad time to engage my troops that were there. They marched on them just as the rest of my troops who had been loaded onto boats started arriving.

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Assault successful.

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Wiped out some enemies.

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And some more. They still aren't willing to give up yet though, so I sail the army into Iberia.

As they head that way:

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A province converts.

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We arrive. It will take some time for our troops to get ready to assault.

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A few assaults later and they are ready to give up.

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Butthurt detected.

In a time honored tradition of dickheadery I decide to:

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Enjoy getting stomped on again!

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The first wave is ready to move out.

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And now the second wave is ready. The first headed to Canarias, the second will go into Iberia.

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We win a siege.

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Then assault the other, much weaker, holdings.

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The war ends. Everybody gets back in my territory then disbands.

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My mother is still alive, but I doubt she has much time left. That is the direct vassals mapmode. Everything that says Samos, will be inherited by me.

While I am thinking about inheritance related stuff, I check something:

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That is the two year old daughter of the King of France and my three year old son. I need to improve his opinion of me by a lot if I want this to happen (and I do, because then my grandson would have claim on the Kingdom of France).

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I also remember that I need to marry my daughter off, and do so.

While I am thinking about it and have the money I:

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Usurp the title for the Kingdom of Mauretania.

Here are its laws:

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Yikes. I need to scale back that crown authority to medium, and switch it over to Agnatic-Cognatic, like the rest of my titles.

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My vassals are happy to oblige.

Well now. I should probably play it safe and sit at peace, build up, and otherwise take it easy. But where is the fun in that?

So I:

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Attack the Shia Caliphate, which it is apparently now open season on as they are at war with Scotland (meh, except I later noticed that they are allied with France), the Byzantine Empire (sucks to be him), and Georgia plus many other Byzantine vassals (double sucks for him).

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The first army gets put together and goes marching into the desert. They should be fine though.

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The second army arrives. I think I will hold them in reserve for now. Also note that I did not raise my own personal levies. They need to recover.

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The Spartenos Family, bringing enlightenment to heathens and heretics since 1060.

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I also decide to strategically place my spymaster so that I should see any enemy coming my way long before they are a threat.

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Some enemy forces are closing in, and the Empire has won its war.

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The enemy rallies. This is good. Hopefully I will have taken the desert area by the time they finish there, and then they will come to me and let attrition do my dirty work for me.

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You irritating bastard you.

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We win a siege as our other army goes to deal with our idiot.

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We beat his army.

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Their jihad fails. Also their army is now suffering attrition, though it isn't much.

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We lose a siege. I need to get a white peace with my rebel quickly so that the that army can be in the area to support the force that is sieging the Caliphate's land.

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The rebel army is wiped out.

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And another rebel. Its a shame that he isn't pleased that I pressed his father's claim, which in turn gave him more territory. I may have to white peace with the Caliph if these idiots keep it up.

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A province converts!

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I assault the rebels at great cost.

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But it convinces our first rebel to call it quits.

Meanwhile back east:

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We lose another siege.

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But we take a province too, so it is all good still.

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Another rebel army gets educated on why it is a bad idea to rebel.

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Another siege is lost, and more enemy troops are coming. My army over there has had to pull back into our territory for now, as disease has struck the area.

They will probably disband soon.

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Another siege is lost. Both my armies are trying to put down the rebellion right now.

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We win a siege, but they still aren't ready to give up.

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And another rebel joins the fun.

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An assault is won and they are ready for peace, now to Venice.

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This is good. It should improve people's opinion of us.

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Ambition achieved. That will also help with people's opinion of us. We don't have any options except to kill our husband, so we have no ambition right now.

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Our first grandson is born!

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We arrive in and assault the holdings at Venice, and before long the rebel is begging for peace. I imprison him and:

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Take his title for myself. With the rebellions suppressed, it is time to focus on the Caliph once again.

But that will be in the next update. For now my armies disband to recover and get ready to go bring enlightenment to some more heathens.
 

Cornflakes

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So many rebellions. I've learned to hate that formal declaration of war message popup. It always comes at the wrong time.
 

XenomorphII

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Yeah. I am taking a few days off to mentally prepare myself for what will probably be a very rough few updates, as LPing rebellion smashing is pretty tiresome.
 

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