nice puppyPoor Cliffy B, Lawbreakers flopping really broke him.
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LawBreakers - Cliff Bleszinski's failed multiplayer shooter
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I know a few people that were involved with the LawBreakers """competitive""" scene and I've heard some hilarious stories through them. Prior to release the LawBreakers comp discord server was full of people talking about how they're going to negotiate for salaries and how they need to make a player's union and shit. 
And this other guy recently was talking about how he heard through a guy who heard through a guy who heard through a guy that the upcoming LawBreakers Dreamhack tournament would have a $50k prizepool despite the game only having 50 players total. eSport-chasers take delusional to the next level.
And this other guy recently was talking about how he heard through a guy who heard through a guy who heard through a guy that the upcoming LawBreakers Dreamhack tournament would have a $50k prizepool despite the game only having 50 players total. eSport-chasers take delusional to the next level.
fantadomat
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Insanity of echo chambers.
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Actually this is probably what most gamers and not gamers think about any game that uses esports as a catch.They don't understand that only lol and dota have major tournaments and even they have one tournament which is actually worth it in terms of prize pool(multiple millions).I know a few people that were involved with the LawBreakers """competitive""" scene and I've heard some hilarious stories through them. Prior to release the LawBreakers comp discord server was full of people talking about how they're going to negotiate for salaries and how they need to make a player's union and shit.
All those e-sports earning are from teams that win top 2 consistently or go top 3 in the major tournament.
All that money you earn on lesser tournaments divided by your entire team organization and of course your sponsor making a big cut means it ain't so lucrative as people think.
And even in the best case scenario that you get a couple of sponsors to pay you monthly salary it certainly won't be above something that middle class can make.
But at least you get gaming chairs and fancy neon mice.
http://lawbreakers.nexon.net/en/news/article/25278/patch-1-4-is-coming
As a bit of a TL;DR:
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Honestly, I'm actually quite surprised that the patches are being so weighty. As for the major change: increasing overall survivability is an incredibly dodgy subject for any competitive game. Plus, if it wasn't hard to play well as The Juggernaut already, let the characters with the smallest hitboxes be able to stomach a whole another shot, lmao. So we'll have to take their word that it worked on testing. TDM and new matchmaking options are options and they are always good, but in the other hand they could split the already teeny players avaleible. Hopefully the Quick Match can supply for both modes. Albeit this could be fixed thanks to what the thing that's coming next, uniting the servers to finally make the Aussies stop bitching on the subreddit every 10 minutes.
Patch Notes 1.4
“What's up LawBreakers,
It's time for Patch 1.4 and we're making some significant changes to how health works in the game. The main goal this patch is to increase average lifespans across the board, as we've found that many of our players are spending significantly more time staring at a respawn screen than we'd like.
Here's what we're doing to address this:
Here's what we're hoping to achieve with these changes:
We’re also exploring adding a toggle in Custom Game that players will have access to that will enable the old health values in the future.
In addition to all those changes, we have normal game balance changes. So check out the patch notes to see what else has changed.”
New Additions:
Role Changes:
Base Health (All Roles) –
Health Regen (All Roles) –
Assassin –
"We're buffing up the range on the Arc Blades and pulling back the damage on the Romerus charge shot in order to shift Assassin's play style a bit more towards her bread and butter melee."
Battle Medic –
"Battle Medic's win rate shows way too much impact on the outcome of games, despite having lackluster damage output. Instead of gutting their healing abilities, we decided instead to buff up the rest of our roles by adding the new out of combat health regen. To help compensate Battle Medic, we've given them some more direct damage on their lobber grenades and did a full tuning pass on their mobility. They no longer suffer from increased gravity and should be more agile when moving around the map. We also want to encourage Medics to get into the fray more with their teammates, so we've pulled in the range on the Support Drone's and given them a bit more health to help survive up close."
Enforcer –
"We're shifting some of Enforcer's power out of his Bloodhound Rockets and into the rest of his kit. For a while the "memehounds" have been simply doing way too much damage for how easy they are to use, bordering on being a win-button. We've reduced the number of salvos fired to make them easier to dodge and lowered the damage per salvo to make them less punishing when hit. In exchange we're giving a bunch back to the Aerator and Distortion Field in terms of more accuracy, faster reloads and better mobility.”
Gunslinger –
"Gunslinger's have been annihilating everything in their path since they were buffed back in patch 1.1. Even though we pulled back on his damage a bit since then, those changes didn't go far enough and so we're doubling back and trimming more damage off of the Omega. We're also fixing a longstanding issue where releasing the Omega charge shot early would cause you to always get the minimum damage."
Juggernaut –
"We’ve added a Blocker scoring event to reward Juggernaut players for using his Holo-Deflector effectively. We also added a Cross-checked event for getting kills with his specialty charge attack."
Vanguard –
"We want Vanguard's to be able to escape sticky situations using their mobility, but not necessarily have the fastest top speed in the game."
Wraith –
"Wraith's free mobility spam has broken every design rule we have in the game, complete with instant cooldown refreshes and infinite stab dashing. To keep him in check we've had to undertune the rest of his kit, which has left him feeling subar both to play as and to play against. We're pulling the trigger on some mobility restrictions for Wraith that allows us to open up the rest of his kit. First, Wraith will no longer immediately regenerate triple jump charges upon hitting the ground. Second, the lunge associated with the Wasp is now on a 3 second cooldown. You'll still be able to stab while it's on cooldown, but there will be no forward impulse and the damage will be significantly reduced. On the buffs train we're loading up improvements for almost every other aspect of the kit, with more damage on the Spektor, Slide Kick and Stinger, and a longer Key ability duration.”
Map & Mode Changes:
All Modes –
Blitzball Mode –
"Blitzball has been sped up a bit through score limit and overall game time changes. We've also added some defensive centric scoring events to help out player who like to defend and counter attack. This also helps all of you unsung heroes playing Juggernaut and Titan as goalies keep up with the speedy scoring roles a bit better."
Bug Fixes:
UI –
Custom game –
Sound / Discord –
Gameplay –
Settings –
General Additions/Improvements:
“What's up LawBreakers,
It's time for Patch 1.4 and we're making some significant changes to how health works in the game. The main goal this patch is to increase average lifespans across the board, as we've found that many of our players are spending significantly more time staring at a respawn screen than we'd like.
Here's what we're doing to address this:
- Health was increased for every role.
- We now have health regen after an out of combat delay for all roles.
- A group spawning system was implemented (you spawn with teammates more often instead of solo)
Here's what we're hoping to achieve with these changes:
- Extend the combat dance and create more interesting decisions about when commit to a fight or retreat to safety.
- Reduce the overall amount of insta-gibs.
- Provide more incentive to use abilities and combos in order to finish a fight.
- Health regen on all roles is about letting teams without a Battle Medic have a chance, who previously had too much of an impact on the outcome of a match.
- We were careful here not to adjust regen values too high, we want to preserve the viability of both Battle Medic and Harrier as excellent support roles.
- Health regen on all roles actually keep players in combat LONGER, which we’ve seen has been a positive change during internal testing. It increases players’ amount of action and fun rather than having them retreat to a health station.
We’re also exploring adding a toggle in Custom Game that players will have access to that will enable the old health values in the future.
In addition to all those changes, we have normal game balance changes. So check out the patch notes to see what else has changed.”
New Additions:
- New Map - Namsan!
- New Feature - Daily login rewards!
- Earn 50 Creds the first time you log on to LawBreakers for the day.
- New Feature - Team spawning logic in all modes!
- New Feature - More matchmaking options!
- Players will now have the following options to queue for:
- Objectives - Play matches in all of the current objective-based modes.
- *NEW* Skirmish - Team Deathmatch is now playable as our first limited time mode!
- Quick Match - Search for matches in both Skirmish and Objective to find the fastest one.
- NOTE: Quick Match queues you in both Objective and Skirmish Modes to find the fastest match. Once a match is found, you stay in that queue (either Objective or Skirmish) until you leave.
- Objectives - Play matches in all of the current objective-based modes.
- Players will now have the following options to queue for:
Role Changes:
Base Health (All Roles) –
- Assassin HP 300 → 400.
- Battle Medic HP 350 → 475.
- Enforcer HP 400 → 500.
- Gunslinger HP 325 → 400.
- Harrier HP 350 → 450.
- Juggernaut HP 600 → 700.
- Titan HP 500 → 600.
- Vanguard HP 325 → 425.
- Wraith HP 325 → 425.
Health Regen (All Roles) –
- Assassin 0 → 20.
- Battle Medic 10 → 35.
- Enforcer 0 → 20.
- Gunslinger 0 → 20.
- Harrier 0 → 20.
- Juggernaut 0 → 20.
- Titan 0 → 20.
- Vanguard 0 → 20.
- Wraith 0 → 20.
Assassin –
"We're buffing up the range on the Arc Blades and pulling back the damage on the Romerus charge shot in order to shift Assassin's play style a bit more towards her bread and butter melee."
- Arc Blade's melee range increased from 400 → 425.
- Romerus alt-fire projectile damage reduced from 27 → 25.
- Dash travel speed reduced from 2500 → 2200.
Battle Medic –
"Battle Medic's win rate shows way too much impact on the outcome of games, despite having lackluster damage output. Instead of gutting their healing abilities, we decided instead to buff up the rest of our roles by adding the new out of combat health regen. To help compensate Battle Medic, we've given them some more direct damage on their lobber grenades and did a full tuning pass on their mobility. They no longer suffer from increased gravity and should be more agile when moving around the map. We also want to encourage Medics to get into the fray more with their teammates, so we've pulled in the range on the Support Drone's and given them a bit more health to help survive up close."
- Removed increased gravity modifier.
- Support Drone range decreased from 5100 → 4000.
- Lobber grenade direct hit damage increased from 135 → 145.
Enforcer –
"We're shifting some of Enforcer's power out of his Bloodhound Rockets and into the rest of his kit. For a while the "memehounds" have been simply doing way too much damage for how easy they are to use, bordering on being a win-button. We've reduced the number of salvos fired to make them easier to dodge and lowered the damage per salvo to make them less punishing when hit. In exchange we're giving a bunch back to the Aerator and Distortion Field in terms of more accuracy, faster reloads and better mobility.”
- Aerator minimum spread decreased from 0.35 → 0.
- Aerator maximum spread decreased from 3.75 → 3.25.
- Badger ammo per clip increased from 6 → 7.
- Distortion Field's default active duration increased from 4 → 6 seconds.
- Distortion Field's buff bonus to reload & weapon swap speeds has been increased from 25% → 35%.
- Reduced acceleration speed while Distortion Field is active from 5000 → 2500.
- *NEW* Enforcer can now use double jump even when distortion field is not active.
- Fuel regeneration time decreased from 10 → 7 seconds.
- Bloodhound Rocket's ammo has been reduced from 4 → 3 salvos.
- Bloodhound Rocket's damage per rocket (4 per salvo) has been decreased from 40 → 38
Gunslinger –
"Gunslinger's have been annihilating everything in their path since they were buffed back in patch 1.1. Even though we pulled back on his damage a bit since then, those changes didn't go far enough and so we're doubling back and trimming more damage off of the Omega. We're also fixing a longstanding issue where releasing the Omega charge shot early would cause you to always get the minimum damage."
- Omega's fully charged max damage decreased from 150 → 130.
- Omega's base damage with no charge decreased from 85 → 70.
- *NEW* Omega's damage now properly ramps up based upon charge duration.
- Omega's base damage with no charge headshot multiplier increased from 1.1 → 1.5.
- Omega's damage during a Warp combo increased from 45 → 70
Juggernaut –
"We’ve added a Blocker scoring event to reward Juggernaut players for using his Holo-Deflector effectively. We also added a Cross-checked event for getting kills with his specialty charge attack."
- *NEW* Juggernaut Scoring Events:
- Blocker - awarded for absorbing 300 enemy damage with the Holo-Deflector.
- Cross-checked - awarded for getting a kill with the Juggernaut's Charge into Alt-fire melee attack.
- Blocker - awarded for absorbing 300 enemy damage with the Holo-Deflector.
Vanguard –
"We want Vanguard's to be able to escape sticky situations using their mobility, but not necessarily have the fastest top speed in the game."
- Afterburner's top speed reduced from 2500 → 2200.
- Afterburners acceleration speed increased from 4000 → 5000.
Wraith –
"Wraith's free mobility spam has broken every design rule we have in the game, complete with instant cooldown refreshes and infinite stab dashing. To keep him in check we've had to undertune the rest of his kit, which has left him feeling subar both to play as and to play against. We're pulling the trigger on some mobility restrictions for Wraith that allows us to open up the rest of his kit. First, Wraith will no longer immediately regenerate triple jump charges upon hitting the ground. Second, the lunge associated with the Wasp is now on a 3 second cooldown. You'll still be able to stab while it's on cooldown, but there will be no forward impulse and the damage will be significantly reduced. On the buffs train we're loading up improvements for almost every other aspect of the kit, with more damage on the Spektor, Slide Kick and Stinger, and a longer Key ability duration.”
- *NEW* Triple jump now generates one charge upon landing, and subsequent charges after a 0.5 second delay.
- *NEW* 3 second cooldown on the Wasp Stab lunge
- Spektor's damage per bullet increased from 24 → 25.
- Spektor's minimum spread decreased from 1.0 → 0.35.
- Spektor's damage falloff range decreased from 1200 → 600.
- Spektor's spread amount on bullets after 3 bullets have been shot increased from 2 → 3 per bullet.
- Spektor's ammo increased from 25 → 30;
- Stinger's single target damage with a direct hit increased from 150 → 175.
- Stinger's travel speed increased from 8000 → 9000.
- Slide Kick damage increased from 25 → 75.
- Slide Kick travel speed reduced from 1850 → 1700.
Map & Mode Changes:
All Modes –
- *NEW* Team Spawning:
- We've added logic that tries to spawn teammates who died shortly after one another into collections. This means you will more frequent have some support when heading into battle.
- Threshold to spawn is 3 seconds by default.
- We've added logic that tries to spawn teammates who died shortly after one another into collections. This means you will more frequent have some support when heading into battle.
- Added text messaging above the reticle to better inform the player of relevant mode information.
- For instance, this message will now tell the ball carrier "YOU HAVE THE BALL" in Blitzball.
Blitzball Mode –
"Blitzball has been sped up a bit through score limit and overall game time changes. We've also added some defensive centric scoring events to help out player who like to defend and counter attack. This also helps all of you unsung heroes playing Juggernaut and Titan as goalies keep up with the speedy scoring roles a bit better."
- Game timer reduced to 10 minutes.
- Score limit reduced to 5 scores to win.
- Improved the game clock by not counting down while waiting for the Blitzball to reset.
- *NEW* Blitzball Scoring Events:
- Goaltender - triggers when you are near the goal and the Blitzball carrier dies.
- Carrier Denied - triggers when you kill the carrier near the goal.
- We've also added bonus points for the person that scores the Blitzball.
- Goaltender - triggers when you are near the goal and the Blitzball carrier dies.
Bug Fixes:
UI –
- Fixed an issue where the "Out of Bounds" warning could get stuck on the screen.
- Fixed numerous issues where achievement icons were missing information.
- Fixed numerous issues where achievement icons were cut off in announcement windows.
- Fixed player's health bars sometimes not updating when spectating another player.
- Fixed the profile icon border sometimes becoming offset during the End of Match screen.
- Fixed an issue where the game could get stuck when attempting to purchase a Stash Drop while Steam Overlay is disabled.
Custom game –
- Fixed an issue where the start button would not function for a period of time after completing a match.
Sound / Discord –
- Fixed an issue where players were forced to disconnect and reconnect to the Discord Client to be heard.
- Fixed an issue where the game could potentially hang during gameplay due to excessive audio calls.
- Fixed Blitzball overtime audio announcer message playing when jumping off the map while in overtime.
- Fixed audio cue issues in Overcharge and Uplink where they may not play properly during your first match.
Gameplay –
- Battle Medic
- Fixed an issue with Blindfiring Firefly immediately after reloading would result in 2 energy charges being used instead of 1.
- Gunslinger
- Fixed an issue where the TAC Knife's melee attack could headshot certain characters for bonus damage
- Harrier
- Fixed an issue where the laser VFX would remain stuck.
- Vanguard
- Fixed an issue where Starfall would be interrupted in mid air due to camera collisions.
- Fixed an issue where the game server would not immediately remove a player after they disconnected.
- Fixed an issue where multiple players could be awarded MVP.
- Fixed an issue where Starfall would be interrupted in mid air due to camera collisions.
Settings –
- Fixed issues with the HUD not scaling properly.
General Additions/Improvements:
- Sandbox Tutorial has seen several improvements to Tips, Objective Pathing, and Bot performance.
- *NEW* Gameplay tips now display in game.
- The "Find Match UI" will now always show during the end of game experience to let players know that they are still searching, or if they have been booted from the game lobby.
- Leaving a match during warmup or between matches phases do not count against player's consecutive match bonus timer.
- Outdated versions of the game are no longer able to enter matchmaking
- *NEW* Combined the end of match personal results and scoreboard screens into a new unified results screen.
- Improved stability of the client and server.
- Reduced hitches related to garbage collection.
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Honestly, I'm actually quite surprised that the patches are being so weighty. As for the major change: increasing overall survivability is an incredibly dodgy subject for any competitive game. Plus, if it wasn't hard to play well as The Juggernaut already, let the characters with the smallest hitboxes be able to stomach a whole another shot, lmao. So we'll have to take their word that it worked on testing. TDM and new matchmaking options are options and they are always good, but in the other hand they could split the already teeny players avaleible. Hopefully the Quick Match can supply for both modes. Albeit this could be fixed thanks to what the thing that's coming next, uniting the servers to finally make the Aussies stop bitching on the subreddit every 10 minutes.
http://www.pcgamer.com/you-can-play-lawbreakers-free-this-weekend/
Basically, free weekend the 28th and it'll stay with the current -25% discount for that.
Basically, free weekend the 28th and it'll stay with the current -25% discount for that.
fantadomat
Arcane
And today the player base peaked at 154 people.
I'd sure like that tool of yours that shoes PS4 players as well. We'll have to see how much of this applies for the weekend.
Another thing that seems to show is that they're shifting the marketing taglines and style. For one, this trailer had a lot more character than any of the others, except the cinematic one.
Another thing that seems to show is that they're shifting the marketing taglines and style. For one, this trailer had a lot more character than any of the others, except the cinematic one.
fantadomat
Arcane
And here we have THE CHOSEN ONE,the codex who is part of the elite club 154!
abija
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Whoever are in charge of game design and marketing direction need some seminars in KISS. The action clips from the trailer are cut too short and are too elaborate to actually mean anything for people not familiar with the game (perfect example the air shot at ~0.57).
Ivan
Arcane
Free weekend
This dropped to 10 concurrent players yesterday according to this source:
https://archive.is/wWm7O
F2P very soon, most likely. I don't remember even Battleborn dropping this much
https://archive.is/wWm7O
F2P very soon, most likely. I don't remember even Battleborn dropping this much
The glorious days of CS 1.6, UT99 and Quake 3 Arena are loooooooong gone.
Why devs still bother with this MP shootfest shit remains a mystery to me.
Why devs still bother with this MP shootfest shit remains a mystery to me.
Lord Romulus
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