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KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance Pre-Release Thread [RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Morgoth, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    only 10% of games

    on gog games without DRM are 100%
     
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    "Normal" people?
     
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  3. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    Codexers are normies, I knew we would make it one day!
     
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  4. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    THe only thing worse about GoG is that patches can come after some time (and they are always behind steam)because the GoG team need to pack them themself.
     
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  5. Merlkir A Sharp Developer

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    Wow, the lipsync is really off in places. And flaming arrows?! Really?!
     
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  6. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    Not sure if serious
     
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  7. Doktor Best Arcane

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    Yeah sure, but i'm talking about the specific case of Kingdom Come Deliverance.
     
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  8. mildTea Learned

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    German Wikipedia contains illustration of flame arrows from Konrad Kyeser, who funnily enough is actually an NPC in the game. Their use for sieges and setting villages on fire seems to be historically accurate. This is what they are used for in those scenes.

    Can't believe they wouldn't check such a thing given the historical accuracy of the game is one if it's main selling points.
     
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    any press previews of this in english yet?
     
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  10. Talby Arcane Patron

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    Kingdom Come Deliverance: the No Man's Sky of the RPG genre?
     
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    Gee, I hope not.
     
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  12. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    Did someone say No Man's Sky?

    NMS is proceduraly generated, Kingdom Come is not, so it cannot be NMS of RPGs
     
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  13. Lahey Magister Patron

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    MEA was the NMS of RPGs.

    KCD is the Dark Souls of RPGs.
     
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  14. HoboForEternity Arcane

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    I wonder if the hardcore mechanics like eating, drinking, and in depth armor system would be a negative for the retardo casual

    Also i heard quest are tiem sensitive and missable. Imo thats incline in the context of simulating a world, but normies wants a playground that centered around yourself, and not taking part in a living world
     
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  15. Pretty Liturgist Patron

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    It's the Dark Souls of No Man's Skies of the RPG genre.
     
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    You see that castle? You can climb it.

    Seriously though, this looks like it will be a fun mod. I think it's great that people are still trying to improve Oblivion after all these years.
     
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    Todd Howard is going to be influenced by KCD and the next Elder Scrolls game will feature arrow trails.
     
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  18. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Talby is the No Man's Sky of Codex.
     
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  19. cvv Arcane Patron

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    You can see it in the video above. They introduce the time mechanics in the little quest where your dad gives you some money to bring him cold beer from the pub. If you wander around too much the beer gets warm and he sends you for another one but this time you have to pay for it yourself. From various talks Vavra gave it's just a little taste, it'll go much deeper later on.

    As for eating/drinking - it'd be negative even for me if it's just a pointless chore. Meaning if you have to constantly eat and drink but food and beverages are retardedly easy to come by. I hope that's not the case here.
     
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  20. Merlkir A Sharp Developer

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    Well, yes, but he also painted this:

    [​IMG]

    Not sure I'd take his word for everything. :))

    I always thought that fire arrows had to be shot from underpowered bows at close distances, because otherwise they would extinguish themselves in flight. Apparently, there were others of a newer construction that could be shot from ballistas and such.
    Either way, my disbelief was more directed at their use here - shooting villagers and igniting freely available thatched roofs. (seems like a pointless waste of arrows only meant for cinematic spectacle)
     
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  21. Doktor Best Arcane

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    Whats wrong with the picture? Not every painting does have to depict reality, as not every painter back then had the urge to strive for realism. Artists exaggerate.


    As for your objection to firearrows. Firearrows are basically sticks with feathers. If you only need them to set villages ablaze you wouldnt even need iron arrowheads i guess? Why exactly would using them be unpreferable to engaging your men in close combat encounters with peasents with pitchforks, eventually losing precious manpower in the process?
     
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  22. Elex Educated

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    shit burn
     
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  23. cvv Arcane Patron

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    This just shows the more someone strives for authenticity and reality the more buttmad people get about the few islands of poetic licence and dramatic exaggeration that were left in the piece.
     
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    Nope, forced third party client installed on your machine with telemetry kicking in makes for second difference. This shit is optional on GOG - you don't want it, you don't install it, sticking with web interface instead.
     
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  25. Merlkir A Sharp Developer

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    Well, that's my point. If you evidence for the use of fire arrows is a drawing by this guy, why believe it was not poetic license?

    Firearrows are not sticks with feathers, if you want those where the flame doesn't go out in flight, they have to have those hollow ends and/or metal cages with coals etc.
    The peasants wouldn't have likely posed any threat to armored attackers, especially since it's a surprise attack. (and indeed they don't)
    My point again - why not just shoot the peasants with normal arrows and then easily burn down the village, instead of using potentially unreliable fire arrows and/or wasting them on peasants?

    It's not a big issue at all, but the fire arrows would make more sense if they were actually attacking the castle, not the unprotected village.
     
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