Review Jeff Vogel reviews Dragon Age

I don't know why I even bothered to read that.

From a comment on the same page:

OH SNAP

JEFF VOGEL MORE LIKE CONSOLETARD VOGEL I LOVE MY XBOX I MEAN WHAT THE FUCK BRO HE USED TO BE COOL MAN BUT HES GOTTEN MAINSTREAM BOYCOT GREENFORGE BECAUSE HE LIKES FAGGOT AGE!!!!!!!!!!!

I've always gotten the impression that Jeff Vogel's an okay dev as long as he keeps his mouth shut; he has a tendency to sound less than intelligent.

Then again he's a Mactard.

I didn't

Geralt would slain a mage, use witchery on kid (or - if that wouldnt work - had a choice to leave him alive or kill) and finally have sex with his mother, getting a nice sex card.

He'd have to spend the night with the kid to exorcise the demon.

So who is this Vogel guy? And why does his opinion matter?

What? I don't click links on codex. It even says so in FAQ.

New world of goatse here we goo....

EDIT: Still nothing, his opinion is his opinion, I don't see why this made into news here. And spder something still doesn't ring a bell. Wait those guys from those games I haven't played. How interesting.

Some Mactard making dungeon crawlers.

Spiderweb is one of the oldest warriors still supporting the RPG front, the last standing member of the old guard. Show some respect, people.

I stopped after this

Yes, I can see rpg genre being in great decline when dungeon crawlers are last of it. True, rpg's originated from dungeoncrawling but where is 'role' in them?

And here we go.

Allright checked it out and maybe it is not a dungeon crawler. I shall personally test this.

Await my return lads. :mounts horse:

I think Jeff Vogel is a bit out of the loop. He probably doesn't play RPGs much, as I think he's said he is sick of his own games by the time he's finished them and doesn't want to play anything similar.

The Redcliffe/demon situation bring up a great point, it was interesting, and a difficult decision to make on the face of it, if only Bioware had followed it through (actually allowed the arl to die/quest to fail because you took too long).

Fortunately I still got strategy games, so I need not play every garbage out of sheer desperation. The rpg genre is clearly at the end.

People like to bring up the Redcliffe plot as if it were just one of many examples of the C&C found in DA overall - it's not. There are only a hand full of those in the entire game (one per major plot area) and it's the most fleshed out of the lot. Even so, once you dig deeper (ie reload) to try the different possibilities, it becomes obvious how shallow the whole thing is in fact.

Siding with the demon, the obvious evil/selfish choice, offers the best reward: the Blood Mage class. But once unlocked, you can keep the class even if you reload and make the opposite decision which eliminates the moral dilemma you would otherwise face.
As others have pointed out, traveling to the Mage Tower to request their help doesn't really have a drawback like ingame dialogue would make you believe. You can take your time, tour the world, and when you come back you find the situation the way you left it.
And lastly, no matter what you do, the Arl will live to play his predetermined role in the last chapter of the game. The boy and his mother are quickly forgotten, apart from a brief mention in one dialogue.

All in all, it's still decent C&C compared to other games that offer none at all, but no where near the groundbreaking design some people make it out to be.