Jeff Vogel: complete ludography for less than a fiver

[pakoito]

Buy here.

http://www.gog.com/promo/summer_spiderweb_bundle_250614

The irony is strong on this one.

http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/the-indie-bubble-is-popping.html

 

[Correct_Carlo]

Totally worth it, though. Geneforge is awesome. Like, I acknowledge that Fallout 1 and 2 are probably better games by many objective criteria (graphics, art design, general universe building, etc), but I enjoyed playing the Geneforge series way more than I did the fallouts. And Geneforge unquestionably has better combat. And the Avernums are solid, bread and butter, turn based RPGs that you can always fall back on when you have nothing else to play.

Avadons are less than spectacular, but I don't hold that against Vogel like most of Codex seems to.

 

[DalekFlay]

All of them except the second Avernum were in a Humble Bundle a while back too, which is where I got them.

 

[Davaris]

The irony is strong on this one.

http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/the-indie-bubble-is-popping.html

He's right about portals. They create a race to the bottom. The same thing happened years ago with casual game portals. At that price, I can't see how he can sell much of anything on his site now. He'll have to go through the portals.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

Totally worth it, though. Geneforge is awesome. Like, I acknowledge that Fallout 1 and 2 are probably better games by many objective criteria (graphics, art design, general universe building, etc), but I enjoyed playing the Geneforge series way more than I did the fallouts. And Geneforge unquestionably has better combat. And the Avernums are solid, bread and butter, turn based RPGs that you can always fall back on when you have nothing else to play.

Avadons are less than spectacular, but I don't hold that against Vogel like most of Codex seems to.

Uh no Geneforge has really bad combat, it's about exploration, design, and playing with the various underlings which you can create on the fly, but that's it.

 

[LESS T_T]

Buy here.

http://af.gog.com/promo/summer_spiderweb_bundle_250614?as=1649904300

Uh, expired. Likely it'll return later in Summer Sale though.

 

[Correct_Carlo]

Totally worth it, though. Geneforge is awesome. Like, I acknowledge that Fallout 1 and 2 are probably better games by many objective criteria (graphics, art design, general universe building, etc), but I enjoyed playing the Geneforge series way more than I did the fallouts. And Geneforge unquestionably has better combat. And the Avernums are solid, bread and butter, turn based RPGs that you can always fall back on when you have nothing else to play.

Avadons are less than spectacular, but I don't hold that against Vogel like most of Codex seems to.

Uh no Geneforge has really bad combat, it's about exploration, design, and playing with the various underlings which you can create on the fly, but that's it.

Well, I was comparing them strictly to Fallout, which has totally shit combat. I'm always shocked why people don't ding the Fallout series for its combat more often, as for a turn based game it has absolutely shit, overly simplistic, combat. The Geneforge games might not have super complex combat compared to certain other turn based games, but they are light years better than the Fallout series. The Geneforges are basically designed to be adaptable to incredibly different ways of playing, as the classes a very, very, different from each other....so there are usually a bunch of different ways to tackle combat depending on your class. Agents are spell casters who rely on things like stun to solo combat, Gaurdians are melee builds with minimal creation support, and Shapers have armies of creations with various abilities and damage types at their disposal.

Of course, I do think the GEneforges usually end up turning into over reliance on a few, class specific, exploits/strategies (especially if you are a min/max power gamer), but even still, they have way more variety and strategy involved in combat than the Fallout series.

 

[Daemongar]

Of course, I do think the GEneforges usually end up turning into over reliance on a few, class specific, exploits/strategies (especially if you are a min/max power gamer), but even still, they have way more variety and strategy involved in combat than the Fallout series.

Quit posting, Jeff Vogel, you're drunk!

 

[Crooked Bee]

The best way to play the Geneforge series is trying to avoid combat. It's one of the very few games where that kind of approach is feasible, fun, and entails some nice C&C.

Though commanding hordes of creatures can be fun for a while, too.

 

[agentorange]

it's a lot like a dungeon crawler. in that there are a handful of very fun, creatively approachable fights in the game, and the rest is just an unending slog.

 

[Jack Dandy]

Nabbed Avernum 1-6 pack on GoG, and Nethergate for a buck off Steam.
From what I see, they'll satisfy my Ultima itch.

(I can't stand the look and feel of the CG sprites in his later games..)

 

[TigerKnee]

Might as well play Exile if you want to play the Avernum series, really.

Geneforge at least has its own niche of existence.

 

[Decado]

I tried Avadon. Repeatedly. Could not into. Was like hitting a fake nail with a fake hammer. Felt like I was doing nothing.

 

[Jack Dandy]

Might as well play Exile if you want to play the Avernum series, really.

Geneforge at least has its own niche of existence.

I'd gladly play 'em, but I have Win 7 64-bit and it don't run those.

From what research I did, it's an absolute bitch to emulate them as well. Virtual machines and all sorts of headache..

 

[FeelTheRads]

Virtual machines are actually not much of a big deal. I found Windows 98 for example works best with Virtual PC 2007. It's easy and fast to setup. Just don't install the Virtual Machine Additions if you want to run the VM in fullscreen.

 

[Jack Dandy]

Uh..
http://imgur.com/eDEswNO

What now? (Set it to win 98..)

 

[hoverdog]

Geneforge saga is for less than 3 euros on steam.

 

[hakuroshi]

Might as well play Exile if you want to play the Avernum series, really.

Geneforge at least has its own niche of existence.

I'd gladly play 'em, but I have Win 7 64-bit and it don't run those.

From what research I did, it's an absolute bitch to emulate them as well. Virtual machines and all sorts of headache..

You also can run Win 3.1 from DosBox, then install and play Exiles there. It's a perversion, but it works.

 

[Jack Dandy]

As I said.. too much of a headache. I like my games to be as "direct" as possible. I know it may sound stupid, but them's the breaks

 

[hoverdog]

How's Avadon 2, by the way? Same watered-down shite as the first part?

 

[Pope Amole II]

How's Avadon 2, by the way? Same watered-down shite as the first part?

Yes, exactly the same and thus, worse. Avadon was already pretty recycled and this makes it recycled in square.

 

[hoverdog]

Maybe Vogel will redeem himself, but I have no hope for him.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Uh..
http://imgur.com/eDEswNO

What now? (Set it to win 98..)

Ehm... sorry, man, I totally forgot about this post. Happens a lot lately.

Well, I have no idea what you're doing, really. Do you have a W98 CD or iso plugged into VirtualPC so you can install it? VirtualPC doesn't just come with it.

Google "windows 98 in virtual pc" or something like that and you should get plenty of step by step tutorials.

 

[Jack Dandy]

Ahh- thanks man, but I'm already some ways into Avernum 1. I'll try out your suggestions too sometime, tho.