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Jagged Alliance: Back in Action demo

Discussion in 'Strategy Gaming' started by Humanity has risen!, Feb 1, 2012.

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lol, what a self-entitled piece of a troll

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Yeah, I'm just browsing their forums. Just found that modding quote.
Yeah, this Michael guy is so full of derp it's not even funny.

http://boards.jaggedalliance.com/index.php?/topic/231-create-your-own-custom-merc-imp/

Best thread ever material.
Quick summary: no, it won't be possible to create an a custom IMP merc because balancing wise it's too much shit to handle. I can't give you any more details, but I've already naswered this in the German section.

Edith:
Damn, the quotes by that guy are pure gold. Can't help myself:

The Demo will not contain the full game.

You can play the included mission [in the demo] as often as you want.

Cpt. Michael Obvious reporting for duty. I'll keep them coming.

As said before: Since the Fog of War had been integrated already the engine is able to deal with it. Believe me or not.

The mind. It's blown. So the feature is actually in, and yet you axe it completely because fuck this shit?
By the way, the answer to the question why not toggle it on/off?

Two systems mean twice the amount of possible bugs, testing-time and all this stuff. So the decision was also made cause of rational reasons.

Michael's iron logic makes me speechless yet again.

Already said that in the german boards: I answer whatever I want to answer. That may sound arrogant but it's just the truth.

A motto to live by. I bet that line gets the girls all wet.

What if I say that no core gameplay elements are missing because this is a new game and not a thirteen year old one? Ah. I know. Hate will follow.

Right. Why did you bother caling it Jagged Alliance then?

We renamed the game a few months ago to make clear that we're not going for a complete remake but for a new interpretation.

I get it, it's not "Reloaded", it's "Back in Action." You sly devil you.

Oh. So you want a map inventory? That'd be pretty casual if you can switch items all over the map, you know that, don't you? That said I'd like to mention again in the english boards too that our redskinned friend really has no clue how Back in Action works, what the game feels like and how all the gameplay-mechanics interact with each other and everything is integrated. But - as I really tried hard to be friendly and to argument with him - he still keeps guessing (based on his own logic). Therefore I'll not answer his questions anymore. Hope you all understand my decision and if not: Sorry for that (just that everyone is on the same knowledge level).

Hoomies attempted sarcasm on me. I too can sarcasm like a pro.

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andrzej said: ↑

Sir Tech's humor is in, because they've copy-pasted weapon descriptions from JA2.

Mercs have certain similarities (like names, for example) to the original ones.

If I remember correctly, this was the game where the 3d merc portraits were all pretty much a single shitty model, with 2 or 3 different colors to represent black people, asians and so on. So Magic pretty much ended up looking like shit. Shadow was even worse. Have not watched screens since those amazing shots.

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spectre said: ↑

The Demo will not contain the full game.

You can play the included mission [in the demo] as often as you want.

Oh man, I've laughed so hard after reading those.

Some more:

Actually that's no bullshit. I explained it more detailed in the german forums already. One or two more soldiers affect the balancing very much. The QA has proven that it is possible to play through the game with 4 Mercs at all.

It's a serious business man! Having a player-created mercenary could seriously upset the balance!

I've been reading your posts already and know that you dislike the game. That's okay. But for the name: Well, we have the license to call the game Jagged Alliance and with Back in Action we are starting a new era of JA games. If you like it or not.

We'll wipe our asses with the license and you will watch, lulz.

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@ circ
You mean this gem obviosly?

Small consolation: you can put on various headgear so that it doesn't stand out like a sore thumb anymore.

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The new ones look so sad.

I played Morrowind and my IQ dropped 10 points. I was going to sue Bethesda, but then I saw a mudcrab and forgot. Filthy things.

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Can't find the one that shows the new look for Shadow. Rest assured It's pretty depresing.

Moar derp from teh forums:

http://boards.jaggedalliance.com/index.php?/topic/469-no-fow-breaks-the-game-no-surprises/
Thread starts okay, and then wham! LtChambers comes in.
"Hay guise, it's actually okay and realistic to drop the fog of war. I mean, them mercs could have made a predator drone out of a toy helicopter and a camera. Amirite?"

Yeah, [you can hide from the UAV] by going inside. And guess what...you can't see enemies inside buildings in BiA. Unless you have line of site into the building, which lets you see ALL the enemies in the building, which I agree is utterly unrealistic (heartbeat sensor?).

Right on, it's them hartbeat sensors. Makes so much sense now.

I love it when it happens, I really do.

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I don't who's more butthurt, you guies or that michael dude. Either way I'm enjoying the show.

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This is some serious business, man. I expect Canada to declare war on Germany as soon as the game is released. That'll teach them a lesson.

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spectre said: ↑

@ circ
You mean this gem obviosly?

Small consolation: you can put on various headgear so that it doesn't stand out like a sore thumb anymore.

HOLY FUCK! Man, that is ugly!

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spotted at Obsidian forums

And a voice of reason from among the OE fanboi sheeple:

The portraits for me are a huge indicator of the personality of the game. Sure, Jagged Alliance 2 was amazing because of the strategic layers and the TB combat, but it was also dripping with personality. Each merc was unique, and that is what brought me back to it over and over again. In comparison, Silent Storm also had a great TB combat setup, but it wasn't a game I go back to every year.

I also don't see what the portraits really have to do with the budget. Sir-Tech managed those nice hand drawn portraits with a pretty small team. Did they not hire any artists for the game? The faces look like they were handled by an intern. "Ok, add a mustache to this guy and a helmet to this guy, and that will distinguish them."

Anyways, I would be plenty happy if the game was as entertaining as Silent Storm, although I have major concerns with the combat. I did think the trailer was pretty well done. But when you skimp on something like the portraits, you expose a lack of understanding about how important each individual merc is to Jagged Alliance.

We have to stare at those portraits during combat as well, they aren't just on the AIM screen.

It's sad somebody had to explain all this at all.

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Check out Shadow!!!

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Check out Magic! Good grief! I guess it makes sense that Igor and Ivan look the same... almost as if inbred. Fidel transformed into a black guy. Biff looks like a stud all of a sudden WTF? Grunty leveled up to down syndrome.

Man... they really butchered this one. What a waste. They shouldn't have even bothered.

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Phelot said: ↑

Igor and Ivan look the same... almost as if inbred

That's how Slav countries roll, man.

Oh, cool, now the laptop guy has Counter-Strike shortcut in the top.

I played Morrowind and my IQ dropped 10 points. I was going to sue Bethesda, but then I saw a mudcrab and forgot. Filthy things.

fffsfss....Guys!...ffss..-don't have much time--..ff.s..s... .this..Codex from the future....fff.s.s..f.s.f..Fallout thr-....f..f.ssss....-eel time first person....fffsss...tunred Harold into a fucking tr-...fs.sfffs... steel be with y-..fsfs...sss....-ot too late, you can still sto--fssssfssfsffssssssssssssssssss

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Black said: ↑

Phelot said: ↑

Igor and Ivan look the same... almost as if inbred

That's how Slav countries roll, man.

Oh, cool, now the laptop guy has Counter-Strike shortcut in the top.

Well spotted. What the fuck

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I'm amazed by the authors of this abomination... Just look at those faces, it's grade-A nightmare fuel.

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Actually all of AIM appears to be one massive cloning experiment. Nails and Static look like fill ins for any number of 70's bands.

Hey, I see MERC up there ( @ Black, yeah that is CSS) so what is Biff doing in AIM? Who is with Merc now?

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I'm really glad they released a demo, because I was considering buying this. Now I know that I won't be. For those of you who are wondering if this is a good game in spite of the JA label, it is *not*. In terms of gameplay it's not really comparable to JA2 at all. As a previous post said, it's more similar to 7.62HC and I agree that it's worse in every way. After going through the tutorial and playing the demo level for five minutes, I couldn't wait to shut it off. It's awful.

I have no idea who Bit Composer is intending to sell this game to. The majority of the fans of the original series will hate it, and I don't really see it selling to anyone else. They want $40 retail for this? I predict *very* disappointing sales figures.

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It's funny when they make consolised PC exclusives. What are they thinking?

I played Morrowind and my IQ dropped 10 points. I was going to sue Bethesda, but then I saw a mudcrab and forgot. Filthy things.

fffsfss....Guys!...ffss..-don't have much time--..ff.s..s... .this..Codex from the future....fff.s.s..f.s.f..Fallout thr-....f..f.ssss....-eel time first person....fffsss...tunred Harold into a fucking tr-...fs.sfffs... steel be with y-..fsfs...sss....-ot too late, you can still sto--fssssfssfsffssssssssssssssssss

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spectre said: ↑

. Truth be told I'd rather play 7.62 with its bugs

I just watched a gameplay video and had the same identical thought. That thing is blaaaaand. Damage is little, fallen comrades are rescued in no time, combat looks sooooo short ranged...

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Vicky looks like Grace Jones, though

Never noticed that before

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Seems as if one of my top three franchises of all time has been raped. Shrug.. Guess I'm getting used to this shit.

Well, the good thing is that nobody is going to buy this game, so

a) bad people will lose money
b) the franchise rape will quickly be forgotten.
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There is one positive of this remake - my favorite game store has discounted previous JA titles Good way to replace my decade-old CDs with electronic versions.

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PorkaMorka said: ↑

DakaSha said: ↑

Seems as if one of my top three franchises of all time has been raped. Shrug.. Guess I'm getting used to this shit.

Well, the good thing is that nobody is going to buy this game, so

a) bad people will lose money
b) the franchise rape will quickly be forgotten.

And it will "prove" that PC gamers really don't want games like JA2.

I played Morrowind and my IQ dropped 10 points. I was going to sue Bethesda, but then I saw a mudcrab and forgot. Filthy things.

fffsfss....Guys!...ffss..-don't have much time--..ff.s..s... .this..Codex from the future....fff.s.s..f.s.f..Fallout thr-....f..f.ssss....-eel time first person....fffsss...tunred Harold into a fucking tr-...fs.sfffs... steel be with y-..fsfs...sss....-ot too late, you can still sto--fssssfssfsffssssssssssssssssss

If you cannot get into Mass Effect n Dragon Age, perhaps RPG's are not you're stuff? Or give Oblivion a try, Bethesda usualy made there games for casual players not like Bioware that stickies to more hardcore oldschool RPG mecanics of deep, engrossing storylines and character delvopement.

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