IWD2 source code lost, Beamdog is sad

[Roguey]

kotor 2 already has an enhanced edition with that unexpected patch.

 

[Spectacle]

Backups are my jam. I deal with this crap at my company all the time, you want data from 2008. Well you never gave a damn when I asked for money to update the system and keep the hardware running.

Backups are such a complex, costly system that very few companies understand. Proper backup tapes for that project should have been locked forever and just means of finding them and recovering them.

Really can't believe that they don't exist.

However, as I said I have dealt with many companies that hate paying for backups and DR.

We are talking about software companies, where software is the core business. Not the Apu's Pawn shop of Calgary.

Well I don't work for Apu, any company worth their salt. Should have backups, to some degree. Even lost source code from the 80s is turning up, and that's a miracle in itself.

I'm sure they had backups at some point, but the tapes probably ended up in a bin along with a lot of other stuff that was left over when Black Isle closed their office. At the time nobody could probably imagine that games would get "remastered" in the future, so they didn't have any motivation to search through the dross to find out if anything was worth preserving.

 

[taxalot]

They are going to remaster Fallout 1&2 under Bethesda's orders.

Quote me on that.

It's bound to happen.

 

[YES!]

More like: IWD2 has no mods we can steal.

I was thinking this. How can people who specialize in stealing mods for games with no challenge or character development enhance a game that is actually challenging and has decent character development?

 

[Severian Silk]

I think Beamdog would do well by us with Fallout 1 & 2, and we should endorse them.

Spoiler

 

[deuxhero]

Wonder what game they'll try to "remaster" next.

Spoiler

Hopefully none.

Spoiler

NWN1 of course

If they fixed a few hardcoded things the community has wanted forever (support for non-segmented bodies, multiple controllable henchmen) and didn't break everything it would be great. Who gave a shit about the official campaigns in NWN anyways?

 

[DeepOcean]

Trent, go make something worthy instead of living of the work of better people.

 

[Zer0wing]

kotor 2 already has an enhanced edition with that unexpected patch.

No android port, though. And it's not like KOTOR 2 was difficult to run on modern OS', unlike Bioware's own first game, which is a buggy mess, for shame.

 

[SCO]

They are going to remaster Fallout 1&2 under Bethesda's orders.

Quote me on that.

It's bound to happen.

I don't think so. Bethesda always struck me as a jelly, NIH, profit oriented company (why else keep on with a creaky engine for years?), so they're more likely to 'remaster' the story to a Fallout 3d engine themselves.

 

[pippin]

A NWN1 would be something new since it would finally be something Trent had something to do with.

 

[Severian Silk]

They are going to remaster Fallout 1&2 under Bethesda's orders.

Quote me on that.

It's bound to happen.

I don't think so. Bethesda always struck me as a jelly, NIH, profit oriented company (why else keep on with a creaky engine for years?), so they're more likely to 'remaster' the story to a Fallout 3d engine themselves.

Re-using the original Fallout engine would be free publicity for Interplay and Black Isle, and would draw attention away from Bethesda. I don't think they could stand for that!

 

[imweasel]

Too bad, this would have been the one Infinity Engine game that Beamdog could have actually improved.

OH WELL

 

[taxalot]

Thankfully this is not going to impact the ongoing development of BG3.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

Backups are my jam. I deal with this crap at my company all the time, you want data from 2008. Well you never gave a damn when I asked for money to update the system and keep the hardware running.

Backups are such a complex, costly system that very few companies understand. Proper backup tapes for that project should have been locked forever and just means of finding them and recovering them.

Really can't believe that they don't exist.

However, as I said I have dealt with many companies that hate paying for backups and DR.

We are talking about software companies, where software is the core business. Not the Apu's Pawn shop of Calgary.

Well I don't work for Apu, any company worth their salt. Should have backups, to some degree. Even lost source code from the 80s is turning up, and that's a miracle in itself.

I'm sure they had backups at some point, but the tapes probably ended up in a bin along with a lot of other stuff that was left over when Black Isle closed their office. At the time nobody could probably imagine that games would get "remastered" in the future, so they didn't have any motivation to search through the dross to find out if anything was worth preserving.

The mere fact that it was Black Isle stuff means it is worth presenting. I honesty think that even an old chair Tim Cain sat on when developing Fallout has a value.

 

[Fedora Master]

Updating Aurora engine games is a fucking pain in the ass from what I heard and Beamdog aren't exactly known for their effort.

 

[Wayward Son]

preserved the balance so it dont get defiled. Josh knew

Another thing for me to love Josh for.

 

[Zer0wing]

Updating Aurora engine games is a fucking pain in the ass from what I heard and Beamdog aren't exactly known for their effort.

CD Projekt RED did wonders with Aurora, though. But who are popatoes working on building their reputation and who the fuck is beamschlong.

Spoiler

smaller dialouge box for PS:T than BG2, fucking what?

 

[Infinitron]

The problem with updating NWN is that the scope for improvement is endless. There's no excuse of missing 2D art assets to allow you to focus your efforts. Do you start making ultra-HD models for everything? It would be a potentially monumental undertaking.

 

[A horse of course]

he mentioned a personal "archive" a few times in his posts.

I don't think it was that kind of archive

 

[Iskramor]

No thanks one less left-wing extremist game to avoid.

 

[buru5]

left-wing extremist game

Explain

 

[pippin]

He probably thinks Beamdog made all the IE games.

 

[Roguey]

Isair and Madae are left-wing extremists in that they believe in a peaceful future filled exclusively with mixed-race peoples (specifically humanoid/monster hybrids) brought about by rape camps, and damn near murdering everyone who disagrees with this future.

 

[Iznaliu]

They are going to remaster Fallout 1&2 under Bethesda's orders.

If there are any remasters of FO1/2, they will be in the Fallout 4 engine.

 

[Zer0wing]

If there are any remasters of FO1/2, they will be in the Fallout 4 engine.

As a part of Pip-Boy games DLC. Such incline.