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Alone?Point me a single game where mages have a much harder time than warriors.
>would rather do the same thing every round than have to think about what to doFor all my life I've played mages, wizards, sorcerers and the likes. Hard to explain the appeal, probably half of it has to do with the fact that with enough patience and lots of training and dedication you could potentially become an amazing swordsman, a master archer or an agile thief in real life but you could never become a mage. The other half is how flashy and powerful it all looks, the fantasy surrounding the wizards is awesome. The warrior was a dumb farmer who decided to take on a sword and start to practice but the wizard is a powerful being capable of splitting the earth and calling forth fallen gods from the 9th dimension and shit. It's a whole new level of 'KEWL!'
Now, 3 things
- Mages are usually highly educated characters;
- Stats wise mages are the "intelligent" class;
- You have many spells which means many awshum buttanz to press
It's pretty obvious how at some point all this fantasy got mixed up with reality itself and mages are now associated with "smart kids who can press all the buttons and is a very advanced player" while the warrior is the beginner's, user friendly class for the dumb kid who can only press 1 skill, if any.
Wait a minute...
All this shit couldn't be further from the truth. It's time to stop the lies and start the truths. r00fles!
I've been replaying many games where I always used to faceroll in as a mage, This time though as a warrior character. I still didn't find a single one where I had an easier time. Got my ass handed to me especially hard in Diablo 1. Jesus, how can you even play this shit on the harder difficulties of the HD mod with a warrior? Meanwhile, the sorc pretty much strolls through all floors. Let's not even mention games like Morrowind where mages are essentially cheat mode. The Dark Souls games are perhaps one of the biggest examples. Magic users are widely regarded as 'baby mode'. If you want to experience the true game, you have to melee.
The only partial exception would be games like the D&Ds where wizards have a tough early game, but wait a couple hours and sure enough they'll start to become much more powerful than your bread and butter knight.
Not to mention, in most RPGs the mage ONLY has to worry about 2 things in his stats build: damage and cast speed. The warrior, on the other hand, needs to have:
- damage
- attack speed
- hit chance
- HP
- resists
- dodge
- crit chance
- crit dodge
It's just much harder to balance everything. Oh, did I mentioned the fact that economy wise warriors have to spend a truckload of money on health pots and other shit to survive while the mage's expenditures are typically next to 0?
The "more buttons, so harder" argument is also absolutely imbecile. Warriors are naked in the battlefield. You have your weapon and armor and that's it, good fucking luck. In what universe would that be 'retard mode' compared to a guy who can teleport like a monkey, summon tanks, magic barriers (oh yeah! Glass cannons my ass, in most games mages acquire magic shields at some point), cast rains of fire from 2km away and freeze people who are starting to get remotely near him? Why would more OP options to deal with all problems mean tougher game?
I don't know, maybe my tastes just changed and I started to fully see the beauty behind a guy and his weapon facing a huge dragon with no flashy tricks and just his mortal skills. Still I double dare anyone here to find a manual or a user made guide for any game that recommends beginners to pick mages over warriors. They will ALL tell you that you should start with the warrior and that mages are for more advanced players.
Point me a single game where mages have a much harder time than warriors.
tl;dr mages are cool but they deserve the title of dumb characters, not warriors.
Balrum.Point me a single game where mages have a much harder time than warriors.
Point me a single game where mages have a much harder time than warriors.
Planescape: TormentPoint me a single game where mages have a much harder time than warriors.
Point me a single game where mages have a much harder time than warriors.
NWN. Not turn based but 3E really favors taking warrior class levels early. A pure mage is quite challenging. This doesn't apply to Druids and Clerics which are way way OP.
No. You are a weak nerd and wanted UNLIMITED POOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH to get Roxy to notice you.For all my life I've played mages, wizards, sorcerers and the likes. Hard to explain the appeal, probably half of it has to do with the fact that with enough patience and lots of herpderp
Also Ultima Underworld.Point me a single game where mages have a much harder time than warriors.
Smart class is a function of two things:For all my life I've played mages, wizards, sorcerers and the likes. Hard to explain the appeal, probably half of it has to do with the fact that with enough patience and lots of training and dedication you could potentially become an amazing swordsman, a master archer or an agile thief in real life but you could never become a mage. The other half is how flashy and powerful it all looks, the fantasy surrounding the wizards is awesome. The warrior was a dumb farmer who decided to take on a sword and start to practice but the wizard is a powerful being capable of splitting the earth and calling forth fallen gods from the 9th dimension and shit. It's a whole new level of 'KEWL!'
Now, 3 things
- Mages are usually highly educated characters;
- Stats wise mages are the "intelligent" class;
- You have many spells which means many awshum buttanz to press
It's pretty obvious how at some point all this fantasy got mixed up with reality itself and mages are now associated with "smart kids who can press all the buttons and is a very advanced player" while the warrior is the beginner's, user friendly class for the dumb kid who can only press 1 skill, if any.
Wait a minute...
All this shit couldn't be further from the truth. It's time to stop the lies and start the truths. r00fles!
I've been replaying many games where I always used to faceroll in as a mage, This time though as a warrior character. I still didn't find a single one where I had an easier time. Got my ass handed to me especially hard in Diablo 1. Jesus, how can you even play this shit on the harder difficulties of the HD mod with a warrior? Meanwhile, the sorc pretty much strolls through all floors. Let's not even mention games like Morrowind where mages are essentially cheat mode. The Dark Souls games are perhaps one of the biggest examples. Magic users are widely regarded as 'baby mode'. If you want to experience the true game, you have to melee.
The only partial exception would be games like the D&Ds where wizards have a tough early game, but wait a couple hours and sure enough they'll start to become much more powerful than your bread and butter knight.
Not to mention, in most RPGs the mage ONLY has to worry about 2 things in his stats build: damage and cast speed. The warrior, on the other hand, needs to have:
- damage
- attack speed
- hit chance
- HP
- resists
- dodge
- crit chance
- crit dodge
It's just much harder to balance everything. Oh, did I mentioned the fact that economy wise warriors have to spend a truckload of money on health pots and other shit to survive while the mage's expenditures are typically next to 0?
The "more buttons, so harder" argument is also absolutely imbecile. Warriors are naked in the battlefield. You have your weapon and armor and that's it, good fucking luck. In what universe would that be 'retard mode' compared to a guy who can teleport like a monkey, summon tanks, magic barriers (oh yeah! Glass cannons my ass, in most games mages acquire magic shields at some point), cast rains of fire from 2km away and freeze people who are starting to get remotely near him? Why would more OP options to deal with all problems mean tougher game?
I don't know, maybe my tastes just changed and I started to fully see the beauty behind a guy and his weapon facing a huge dragon with no flashy tricks and just his mortal skills. Still I double dare anyone here to find a manual or a user made guide for any game that recommends beginners to pick mages over warriors. They will ALL tell you that you should start with the warrior and that mages are for more advanced players.
Morrowind.Point me a single game where mages have a much harder time than warriors.
An extended fight with you, probably.Was that meant to lead into something.