Tacticular Cancer: We'll have your balls

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Incline of EU: You can re-sell your digitally bought games

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Angthoron, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. codexian reject Educated

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    If people don't pay for a game they value, to company which financed its production, it won't finance production of similar games in the future.
    If you buy used on ebay, gamestop, or borrow from a friend, game industry is not making any money.
    You could pirate as well and it would be less dumb, since you wouldn't waste money on middleman, or delivery service and it would be less of a hassle.

    Publishers are not evil. Retarded consumers are. If most paying consumers were :obviously: publishers would fund :obviously: games.
    Profits from sales belongs to the company which funded production. Developers risk nothing and are paid for their job and good track record helps with future contracts
    I haven't paid a single penny for F3 or Oblivion to Bethesda since I don't play or buy shitty games. I was happy to pay 50$ for F:NV to Bethesda which hired Obsidian what resulted in a good one in a genre I like.
    Do you know when MCA will try to make a spiritual sequel to PS:T ? When someone will pay Obsidian make one.

    If you've paid 10$ for a good game and 10 x 5$ for AAA or indie shovelware on steam sale, you've just outvoted good games in favour of shovelware in 1/5 ratio. All hail Gaben !
    Paying for a game is like voting with your money, so you should pay as direct as possible and a fair price.
    I heard that the favourite codex retailer has the best deals, if you're concerned only by getting the lowest price.

    Game licenses are not the same kind of products as physical goods. Claiming it's the same is just as retarded as claiming pirating is the same as stealing.
    For morons 'legal' equals 'right' and cheaper equals better, so most people who used to pay for games will start paying only for cheaper used licenses instead. The codex rejoices.
    If it catch up, it won't be possible to make any serious money with singleplayer DRM free games. They will all become subscriptions to a server based service. The codex will impotently rage.
    asper Brofists this.
  2. Excidium WOOOOORLD EATEEEEER

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    Are those people for real...
  3. Raapys Liturgist

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    Does this discussion even matter though? Isn't what you pay for actually a license to use the digital data, and not the data itself? And according to this ruling, you have the right to (re-)sell that license to someone else.
  4. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    Right, so everything else can work with second hand sales but the software industry just can't. Care to explain why? Why is it that special that it should be treated differently? You probably also think libraries are a bad thing and should be outlawed, just like Stephen King does.
    Poor writers, having to deal with second hand sales AND freely available books. It's even worse for them. :(

    And maybe next time you'll try without retarded appeals to emotion. Kthx.
  5. IDtenT Magister Patron

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    Nonsense invented to benefit the industry. All it does is introduce false scarcity into the equation, which is a morally reprehensible act and should be a crime against humanity.
  6. OldSkoolKamikaze Liturgist Patron

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    How long before Valve revokes all European Steam accounts?
  7. Father Walker Potato Ranger

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    Fuck yeah, there is still hope for our glorious continent.
  8. Quetzacoatl Scholar

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    How will steam worm their way out of this? They can't just sit back and let their customers have silly things like freedoms.
  9. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    I'm sure gaben will once again save gaming from this plague.
  10. garren Scholar

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    Steam could pretty easily implement a feature to remove games from your games list you want to "gift" to someone else (monies can be dealt with between the persons personally, if necessary). A lot of the underlying infrastructure is already on Steam.
  11. Average Manatee Prophet

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    They could, but publishers would go apeshit.
  12. Quetzacoatl Scholar

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    What are they going to do about it? Pull their games from steam and lose potential profit?
  13. chubs Novice

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    Wish I could sell some of the crap I got. Lucky bastards.

    As for that neogaf forum.. I dunno which is a bigger shit hole, that or reddit. Can't tolerate either for more than 5 minutes.
  14. Black Prophet

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    When they no longer need ~50% of their user base.
  15. Average Manatee Prophet

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    You assume that they are rational.

    Also they probably fear that it will start to cannibalize their console business
  16. Quetzacoatl Scholar

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    Average Manatee, and you assume that they are not. They won't do shit that will backfire and give them bad pr. I can see some sort of system where dlc and other crap is awarded to those that buy directly from Steam.
  17. Average Manatee Prophet

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    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-06-06-ea-origin-wont-copy-steam-75-percent-off-sales

    EA basically says they don't want more money because it "cheapens their IP" to sell games at steam prices. Yes, these are guys who see Gaben swimming in money without even trying and then decide that he's the one who doesn't know how to run a business.
  18. Infinitron RPG Codex Staff Patron

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    Old news bro. In the meantime they already have sold games at such discounts.



    The console business that is also plagued by the used games market. :M
  19. Average Manatee Prophet

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    Doesn't matter. This is the way they think. They only changed after pretty much everyone else pointed out how retarded they were, so they don't get credit for the change of position. Imagine that, they are so clueless that even the monumentally retarded gaming media had to help them understand their business.

    There are tangible differences though. Used game media takes time to transfer, digital does not. Used games have overhead (the store you sell it to takes ~75% of the profit), there is no overhead with direct person to person digital sales. These combine to mean that there is basically no barrier to selling your game as soon as you are done, because if you ever want to play it again you will almost assuredly be able to buy it back cheaper again and make money still. So, logically 100% of people will want to sell as soon as they have finished the game.

    Furthermore, digital games are always in perfect condition. It is indistinguishable. Logically, again, there is no reason to ever buy a new game unless there are no used games at all available. So since there is no reason not to sell the game once you are done with it, pretty much everyone would be buying the used games after the initial surge of buyers in the first 3 or 4 days assuming an ideal system.
  20. Infinitron RPG Codex Staff Patron

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    Well...at least it will hurt piracy. :smug: Who needs to pirate when I can buy an endless series of games with the same 60 bucks?
  21. Quetzacoatl Scholar

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    Quote pyramids are bad guys! Still, this only applies to Europe and not the Kwa so don't expect to see the publishers crying in a corner just yet.
    When you pirate you won't spend a single bit of those 60 bucks. Cheap can't beat free.
  22. Average Manatee Prophet

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    As far as publishers are concerned piracy and used games are equally bad in that they do not earn publishers money. If anything piracy is less bad, because at least they can blame their failure on something other than their own incompetence.
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    Hence :smug:
  24. Average Manatee Prophet

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    When did :smug: become :sarcasm:?
  25. Black Prophet

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    I'm gonna buy games and then play pirated versions.
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