I played Kotor 3 times and i kinda enjoy it still

[Beautiful Clown Painting]

I've played through both Kotor I & II only once and preferred the first one. I never would have guessed that it was written by the guy who wrote New Vegas and Torment. It seemed pretty bland at the time, and god knows I had already played and adored Torment. Perhaps if I had known that it had been written by Avellone I would have paid more attention. But I prefer that, not to have had any bias. That's why New Vegas took me by surprise, I didn't know what to expect from Avellone seeing that KOTOR 2 didn't cut the mustard for me (I never have played Motb nor Alpha Protocol yet).

Maybe that's because Avellone didn't write NV.

Yeah I read that somewhere, that's it's mainly Sawyer's prose. But then he had an input in the game so for me it counts as one of his games. That's the same for music. During the recording of "LA Woman" Morrisson was practically never there but he nevertheless had a real weight in the process and the finished product.

 

[Mangoose]

I don't think so. In a recent thread a few pages back I think (too lazy to search), there's a thread on NWN2 OC and whether it's worth getting. Most folks said that it was better than DA:O. Not that either game is good, but fuck NWN2 OC is just dreadful.

It is no where near as shitty as DA:O. I will never play that piece of shit again. NWN2, I'll continue to re-play every couple of years or so. I threw my DA:O DVD over my fence.

What? Oldfag.

 

[Roguey]

Yeah I read that somewhere, that's it's mainly Sawyer's prose. But then he had an input in the game so for me it counts as one of his games. That's the same for music. During the recording of "LA Woman" Morrisson was practically never there but he nevertheless had a real weight in the process and the finished product.

http://www.formspring.me/JESawyer/q/2025171501

Let me just do a mini-writing credits dump to answer a lot of common questions here. Most of the major plot characters (Benny, Victor, Caesar, Mr. House) and the main story itself were written by the game's creative lead, John Gonzalez. Eric Fenstermaker wrote Veronica and Boone. Chris Avellone wrote Cass, Lanius, and Oliver. Travis Stout wrote Lily and Raul. Most of the other characters, major and minor, were split between the writers above and other area designers. Of course the actual full design treatments, quests, and implementation of areas were done by the area designers.

The only "big" characters I wrote were Chief Hanlon, Arcade Gannon, and President Kimball's speech. Also I just wrote/structured the dialogue in GECK. The design, implementation, and scripting for the associated quests of those dialogues (Return to Sender, For Auld Lang Syne, You'll Know It When You See It/Arizona Killer) were handled by Matt McLean, Travis Stout, Jeff Husges, and Charlie "Master of Hoover" Staples.

I don't think three major characters counts enough to make it "his". Dead Money (and apparently the one with the Big Empty judging by his twitter location), sure.

 

[Hobo Elf]

I can't help but feel that KotOR would be a most forgettable game if it wasn't for the Star Wars setting.

 

[Achilles]

I only completed KOTOR once, probably because I am a Star Trek fan.

You have to complete it at least 7 times.

This is rapidly becoming the Codex version of the "over 9000!!!" meme.

 

[Mangoose]

I can't help but feel that KotOR would be a most forgettable game if it wasn't for the Star Wars setting.

Well, of course. Main reason I played was for the lightsaber animations. Oh and they are amazing when you are tripping

 

[IronicNeurotic]

@BCP

Wait

...

You are saying New Vegas was better written than Kotor 2?

*Head explodes"


Also yes, if its anyones project regarding writing. It is John Gonzales. He wrote the main story and most of the major charachters.

 

[Lockkaliber]

It should be pointed out however, that lots of stuff that is in New Vegas are taken from PnP sessions (IIRC), where MCA was the DM, so to some extent, he should still be credited with the writing for the game

 

[commie]

I played KotOR one time. Have no desire to ever play it again. Now KotOR II, played many times.

Funny, I played KotOR just the once and would like to try it again merely because I don't remember a thing about it apart from the ending when after being good all the way through I suddenly turned to the dark side when I found that I could kill off that fucking annoying kid. That's a good thing about that game, it actually had a pretty lengthy and elaborate ending for both options. So many these days seem to have a 15 second clip that is deliberately ambiguous in case of sequels and really, after going through an 'epic' journey I expect a bit more than 'You have saved the [x], but for how long?'

 

[Tycn]

This thread has a conspicuous lack of Skyway.

 

[IronicNeurotic]

It should be pointed out however, that lots of stuff that is in New Vegas are taken from PnP sessions (IIRC), where MCA was the DM, so to some extent, he should still be credited with the writing for the game

Cesars Legion has been changed so much since his first draft that its really not worth it.

 

[SCO]

Never even used a demo.

Fucking star wars.

 

[anus_pounder]

Played KotOR once. As for II, I completed it maybe 2 times (vanilla) and ALMOST completed it 3 times (restored content).

 

[Nael]

Never even used a demo.

Fucking star wars.

You really have no joy in your heart, do you?

 

[Ladders & Snakes]

Four times.

 

[Mangoose]

I really should have made this a poll =/

 

[BLOBERT]

BROS PLAYED BOTH ONCE

TRIED A REPLAY OF TWO BUT GOT BORED

BROS REPLAYING KOTOR REMOVES ANY HARD CORE CRED YOU MIGHT WANT I AM INCLUDED REPLAYING KOTOR MORE THAN THREE TIMES IS THE EQUIVALENT OF PLAYING EACH NEW FINAL FANTASY

BROS MOST PEOPLE HERE DOTH PROTEST POPAMOLE A LITTLE TOO LOUDLY LOOLOLL TO QOOTE SHAKESPEER

BROS THE HARDCORE ON THIS FORUM ARE LIKE THE NEIHGBOOR IN AMERICAN BEAUTY HE HATED FAGS SO BAD HE EITHER HAD TO SUCK A DICK OR KILL ONE

 

[Secretninja]

I got maybe 3/4 the way through it before losing interest and playing something better.

 

[Lightknight]

Also, KOTOR is Star Wars, but free of the new trilogy faggotry.

It's free of the old trilogy faggotry as well.

I can't help but feel that KotOR would be a most forgettable game if it wasn't for the Star Wars setting.

"Star Wars setting" should be put in quotes. I would have liked that game much better if it was actually Star Wars setting, instead of "Forgotten Realms IN SPACE".

 

[Oesophagus]

Played it, somewhere around midgame got bored.


Three times

 

[Jokerman89]

Bunch of closet bioware lovers.


Kotor was an awesome game

 

[Konjad]

Well, the first time I got bored when I had completed about 90% of the game, it was a non-light non-dark path, the second one I played BIOWARE EVIL path for teh lulz and I have completed it. Just the same as with Jade Empire. It's fun only if you play BIOWARE EVIL HARRR for the lulz.

 

[MicoSelva]

Played both KoTORs one time. Willing to play through both of them one more time - with fan patches / mods. When If I have time.

 

[Topher]

Also, KOTOR is Star Wars, but free of the new trilogy faggotry.

It's free of the old trilogy faggotry as well.

I can't help but feel that KotOR would be a most forgettable game if it wasn't for the Star Wars setting.

"Star Wars setting" should be put in quotes. I would have liked that game much better if it was actually Star Wars setting, instead of "Forgotten Realms IN SPACE".

What made it forgotten realms in space exactly?

 

[santino27]

Played both KOTOR 1 and 2 one time each, all the way through.

I preferred the first one. While the unfinished state of the sequel definitely impacted my enjoyment of it, I was equally bothered by the 'finished' elements; namely, the characters and story.

I know there are people here who hold up Kreia (sp?) as the epitome of characters, but I felt like the Obsidian writers were a lot more interested in her than I was... I generally like the writing that comes out of Obsidian, but I felt like it was a really poor fit for the star wars universe, which plays more to broad strokes of good vs. evil.

 

[RottingNaziSurfer]

Played through it 3 times on my old Xbox. One good, two evil. Still have the copy of the game. Actually looks pretty good on my big HD tv.

"Disclosure: I am a versatile protocol and combat droid, fluent in verbal and cultural translation. Should your needs prove more... practical, I am also skilled in highly personal combat."