You must suck more than I do if you think a babysitting support has to give the carry every single creep.
Oh please. As if no changes have been made to the game with player behavior in mind.
No, he should make sure nothing disturbs the carry or messes with creep balance. That's the point of a babysitter, not to steal creeps or dance them around whenever he tries to zone enemies because he has no clue about game mechanics.
The schyzophrenic power levels heroes have in dota and the timings generated are more complex than lol and hots put together. Also a big reason why talents aren't quite on the same level with items as far as depth is concerned.
This comparison completely counters your argument, FYI.
Like I said majority of dota players are shit tier material and Blizzard targeted them. Most of the changes are made for players that don't understand mechanics and objectives in dota and they get angry for stupid reasons like a carry stealing farm/xp/kills.
Indeed, the only time a support can last hit is when he is alone on the lane/jungle or that the carry has absolutely no chance to get the last hit (shopping/regen/getting harassed which shouldn't happen with you on the lane) and even then it implies a minimum of communication. The perfect lane support should harass the enemy so the carry can free farm, stack and pull the camps, deny, hit once a ranged creep when close to the tower for easy last-hitting, ...
And a situation where the support legitimately needs some last hits from the lane never happens? What if you bought wards & the courier because no one else wants to buy either? What if the pull camp is warded? I guess even those people that edit the gamepedia and liquipedia entries on creep control and support strategy don't understand game mechanics as well.
probably squeezed in a post somewhere about how MM is such bullshit and he's always getting paired with feeders. he bought wards and supported after all!
I guess the issue is your definition of what a support is in DotA because it obviously is at least partially incorrect. To be fair the game never explains what it is and just slaps "roles" on heroes (Support, Durable, Carry). The only thing you have to learn in HotS is the heroes and abilities and the maps, there are no hidden mechanics, items and combination of everything else like in other games in the genre. And it's fine, that's what they are aiming at.
i dont know what went through their heads when they decided to use the D3 female barb over the D2 one. Do these idiots even into marketing?
Let's be real here, there probably aren't a bevy of competitive players running around the RPGCodex so you're bound to be doing something that your role says you absolutely don't do (e.g. your support sucks dick, chick is still running, and you can't see your own Radiant jungle you should probably just spend the gold to make sure you can get items in a timely manner and you can see people running into your jungle if they aren't smoked)
I'm sorry then, that when two dota 2 wikis, along with the most comprehensive guide I have read on the matter say otherwise, I would rather believe that what I'm saying is not totally unreasonable like you claim.
The definitive guide is indeed "The art of support" and nothing in there says you have to take last hits from your carry (cores are usually the 3 farming heroes of your team). You don't get more experience when last hitting either so the only reason you would do that is indeed finishing a crucial item like mek but even then every last hit counts on the carry of the team especially if he is alone. And like the guide says it's something you should always ask before.
