Heroes of Might & Magic 7

[FeelTheRads]

-Dragonblood crystal
-Starsilver
-Shadowsteel
-Dragonsteel



Should have been:
-Trying
-too
-fucking
-hard

 

[Darth Roxor]

But what about the Steelsteel and the Steel Rain!

 

[FeelTheRads]

I think they missed a great opportunity by not making Starsilver into Dragonsilver instead. Should put it up to a vote, imo.

 

[Malaphusis]

Playing Haven without Griffins is gonna suck.

 

[Suicidal]

What is this shit. Heroes 3 with WoG wins in every single category.

Especially in the category of multiplayer desyncs

 

[mhm32167]

I've been thinking about why I don't like the ubisoft setting. It tries to be deep but comes across as bland and uninspired. The writing is poor. The nwc games didn't take themselves as seriously and the world was fun, even if it wasn't as sophisticated as other sci-fi/fantasy worlds. If only ubisoft would just hire an actual writer or two, and replaced whoever is in charge of the worldbuilding. It probably doesn't matter at this point; I doubt the new setting is even salvageable.

Anyway, more haven units revealed: http://mmh7.ubi.com/en/blog/post/view/armies-of-the-light-part-2

The haven lineup probably looks something like:
Core: crossbowman, dire wolf, sentinel
Elite: chaplain, guardian, cavalier
Champion: swordbearer, ? (angel?)

Haven was never that interesting, but this lineup seems so homogenous. Hopefully guardian, sentinel, and swordbearer have something to distinguish them from each other. Not too fussed about dire wolf replacing griffin, given that in this game haven is represented by the 'wolf duchy'. Griffins will probably be neutral if they are included at all.

 

[Jaedar]

I really hope they aren't keeping the shitty unit tiers from homm6, even if it really looks like they are :/

 

[Darth Roxor]

:incloosive:

This is shaping up to be the most boring Haven in existence, good job.

 

[DeepOcean]

I've been thinking about why I don't like the ubisoft setting. It tries to be deep but comes across as bland and uninspired. The writing is poor.

Yeah, this sounds like Ubisoft alright.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Needs bigger crests and pauldrons.

 

[Untermensch]

This is shaping up to be the most boring Haven in existence, good job.

Haven is boring by default.

 

[Darth Roxor]

This is shaping up to be the most boring Haven in existence, good job.

Haven is boring by default.

This man disagrees

And incidentally, obviously the hacks doing this shit cut out the crusader from the Haven squad, even though he's the 2nd coolest unit in the entire HoMM series (after minotaur kings), and has appeared in every HoMM to date.

 

[Storyfag]

This is shaping up to be the most boring Haven in existence, good job.

Haven is boring by default.

It is, no argument here. But Haven mk VII indeed shapes up to be the most boring of them all (mind you, I do not consider the entire Heroes VI to have ever happened)

At least that gal over there has some proper armour

 

[Ulminati]

And incidentally, obviously the hacks doing this shit cut out the crusader from the Haven squad, even though he's the 2nd coolest unit in the entire HoMM series (after minotaur kings), and has appeared in every HoMM to date.

And replaced him with a white knight amirite?

 

[hoverdog]

Core: crossbowman, dire wolf, sentinel
Elite: chaplain, guardian, cavalier
Champion: swordbearer, ? (angel?)

Three tier system again? HoMM7 confirmed for irredeemable shit.

 

[you know what time it is]

The haven lineup probably looks something like:
Core: crossbowman, dire wolf, sentinel
Elite: chaplain, guardian, cavalier
Champion: ?

Fits better in inferno though.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Yeah, wtf, that was the single most horrible thing about VI. Edit: units divided into 3 tiers with even the basic ones being huge hp sponges I mean.

 

[Zeriel]

I've been thinking about why I don't like the ubisoft setting. It tries to be deep but comes across as bland and uninspired. The writing is poor. The nwc games didn't take themselves as seriously and the world was fun, even if it wasn't as sophisticated as other sci-fi/fantasy worlds. If only ubisoft would just hire an actual writer or two, and replaced whoever is in charge of the worldbuilding. It probably doesn't matter at this point; I doubt the new setting is even salvageable.

Anyway, more haven units revealed: http://mmh7.ubi.com/en/blog/post/view/armies-of-the-light-part-2

The haven lineup probably looks something like:
Core: crossbowman, dire wolf, sentinel
Elite: chaplain, guardian, cavalier
Champion: swordbearer, ? (angel?)

Haven was never that interesting, but this lineup seems so homogenous. Hopefully guardian, sentinel, and swordbearer have something to distinguish them from each other. Not too fussed about dire wolf replacing griffin, given that in this game haven is represented by the 'wolf duchy'. Griffins will probably be neutral if they are included at all.

Griffins are going to be a campaign unit (since the hero guy bringing the factions together is a griffin duchy guy or something).

On topic, while a lot of this tier doesn't excite me at all (Ubisoft managed to make all the female units look retarded, congratulations!) I am a big fan of what they are trying to do with the wolf duchy units, replacing the flamboyant gold-and-yellow everywhere holy units with a haven that has more of a medieval flair to it can be nothing but good. Sun Riders replaced by actual cavalry with actual horses that aren't glowing abominations of bloom is the best part of this update.

And as someone mentioned in the comments, this lineup reminds me strongly of Heroes 2, probably another reason I am fond of the idea (though not the execution).

I think they already said the champion tier will include an angel, which is sort of a pity, would have been a nice opportunity to push a haven lineup that is just a brutal medieval army.

Yeah, wtf, that was the single most horrible thing about VI. Edit: units divided into 3 tiers with even the basic ones being huge hp sponges I mean.

Functionally, what is the difference between this and the way Heroes 2 and 3 did it? Not a rhetorical question, I am actually curious, having played both the actual in-game experience is about the same in terms of building up your town. The earleir games had tiers of units too, they just weren't loudly announced as such. If you mean "the units were balanced poorly in H6", okay, but that's a separate issue from the 3 tiers.

 

[IDtenT]

And incidentally, obviously the hacks doing this shit cut out the crusader from the Haven squad, even though he's the 2nd coolest unit in the entire HoMM series (after minotaur kings), and has appeared in every HoMM to date.

There is one in HoMMV?

 

[Untermensch]

Darth Roxor The problem I have with Haven(and I'm saying this as someone who really likes to play Haven in 2 and 3) is that it's the usual assortiment of pikemen, swordsmen, crossbowmen, cavalry, angels. I'd like, well, fantasy in mah fantasy setting.

But Haven mk VII indeed shapes up to be the most boring of them all

My reply is:

It is, no argument here.

 

[IDtenT]

Haven is a human faction. Cry me a river faggot.

In almost any fantasy ever there exists a human hero.

 

[Darth Roxor]

There is one in HoMMV?

Sort of

/

I actually had to double-check that because entering 'homm 5 crusader' into google images yielded no results, which surprised me greatly. Turns out I was trolled by the Potato version of homm5 where Squire has been translated into Crusader. For old times' sake, I suppose.

 

[MrBuzzKill]

The things I saw and read here make me glad the HOMM series is not very dear to me

 

[IDtenT]

The things I saw and read here make me glad the HOMM series is not very dear to me

What is dear to you, because we will fucking rape it.

 

[mhm32167]

Thinking of homm7 haven as a more homm2 style (knight) faction, the 'swordbearer' might be the new crusader. I hope they come up with a better name. I'm pretty sure the current names are provisional. They changed horseman to cavalier after all.

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Perhaps guardian/justicar will have some kind of aura/support role?

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